1 00:02:49,820 --> 00:03:00,869 [Music] 2 00:03:06,790 --> 00:03:03,910 the smoke radio for the masses headline 3 00:03:08,630 --> 00:03:06,800 edition july 8th 1947 4 00:03:11,110 --> 00:03:08,640 the army air forces has announced that a 5 00:03:12,869 --> 00:03:11,120 flying disk has been found and is now in 6 00:03:15,589 --> 00:03:12,879 the possession of the army 7 00:03:17,509 --> 00:03:15,599 if the game is rigged change the game 8 00:03:20,390 --> 00:03:17,519 game changer 9 00:03:22,710 --> 00:03:20,400 i occasionally think how quickly 10 00:03:24,070 --> 00:03:22,720 our differences worldwide 11 00:03:26,789 --> 00:03:24,080 would vanish 12 00:03:30,110 --> 00:03:26,799 if we were facing an alien threat from 13 00:03:30,550 --> 00:03:30,120 outside this world 14 00:03:32,949 --> 00:03:30,560 [Applause] 15 00:03:35,750 --> 00:03:32,959 [Music] 16 00:03:38,470 --> 00:03:35,760 this is fade to black with your host 17 00:03:42,070 --> 00:03:38,480 jimmy church on the game changer radio 18 00:03:51,110 --> 00:03:46,380 i need your help to get to the year 1985 19 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:53,110 you're listening to fate to flag with 20 00:03:59,030 --> 00:03:56,250 jimmy church on the game changer network 21 00:04:03,589 --> 00:03:59,040 [Music] 22 00:04:03,599 --> 00:04:07,910 is spoke radio 23 00:04:11,670 --> 00:04:09,670 for 24 00:04:13,670 --> 00:04:11,680 the 25 00:04:15,830 --> 00:04:13,680 masses 26 00:04:17,590 --> 00:04:15,840 yeah man how you doing how you doing 27 00:04:20,550 --> 00:04:17,600 today's monday 28 00:04:22,629 --> 00:04:20,560 monday july 11 29 00:04:23,590 --> 00:04:22,639 2022 30 00:04:28,750 --> 00:04:23,600 tonight 31 00:04:28,750 --> 00:04:28,760 it's all about time travel let's do this 32 00:04:37,030 --> 00:04:30,210 [Music] 33 00:04:38,790 --> 00:04:37,040 i would like to welcome everybody 34 00:04:41,590 --> 00:04:38,800 listening all around the world all 35 00:04:43,909 --> 00:04:41,600 across the united states 36 00:04:46,150 --> 00:04:43,919 hither and tether to and fro back and 37 00:04:47,990 --> 00:04:46,160 forth up and down east and west north 38 00:04:50,790 --> 00:04:48,000 and south 39 00:04:53,430 --> 00:04:50,800 far and near 40 00:04:56,390 --> 00:04:53,440 this is fade to black for kjcr the game 41 00:04:58,390 --> 00:04:56,400 changer and nx networks i'm your host 42 00:05:01,670 --> 00:04:58,400 jimmy church what is cracking everybody 43 00:05:04,390 --> 00:05:01,680 how you doing kicking off another great 44 00:05:07,350 --> 00:05:04,400 week here on fade to black 45 00:05:10,870 --> 00:05:07,360 starting it off tonight when we welcome 46 00:05:13,590 --> 00:05:10,880 very special guests 47 00:05:15,830 --> 00:05:13,600 me that's right i'm doing it again 48 00:05:17,830 --> 00:05:15,840 tonight 49 00:05:20,550 --> 00:05:17,840 i'm enjoying 50 00:05:22,870 --> 00:05:20,560 these monday nights getting my 51 00:05:25,749 --> 00:05:22,880 brain released 52 00:05:29,110 --> 00:05:25,759 i'm gonna do that tonight on time travel 53 00:05:31,590 --> 00:05:29,120 we're doing all secrets week this week 54 00:05:32,790 --> 00:05:31,600 tonight it is the secrets of time travel 55 00:05:35,110 --> 00:05:32,800 tomorrow night 56 00:05:38,390 --> 00:05:35,120 scott walter is here 57 00:05:39,749 --> 00:05:38,400 for secret america and then wednesday 58 00:05:43,510 --> 00:05:39,759 night 59 00:05:48,310 --> 00:05:43,520 it's the return of kelly sullivan walden 60 00:05:50,550 --> 00:05:48,320 she's with us for the secrets of dreams 61 00:05:52,310 --> 00:05:50,560 and then thursday 62 00:05:53,990 --> 00:05:52,320 well it's another fader night with open 63 00:05:57,189 --> 00:05:54,000 lines all night long 64 00:05:59,110 --> 00:05:57,199 so what a great week this weekend i mean 65 00:06:00,950 --> 00:05:59,120 i just came off the most amazing weekend 66 00:06:04,469 --> 00:06:00,960 i've had in a long time 67 00:06:07,510 --> 00:06:04,479 and uh i very rarely have you know just 68 00:06:10,790 --> 00:06:07,520 time to do stuff but uh i i got a lot of 69 00:06:13,430 --> 00:06:10,800 things done and um i've got some pretty 70 00:06:15,029 --> 00:06:13,440 big announcements uh coming up starting 71 00:06:17,189 --> 00:06:15,039 uh tonight i'm gonna start announcing 72 00:06:18,790 --> 00:06:17,199 these things but um 73 00:06:20,870 --> 00:06:18,800 i want to go see 74 00:06:24,710 --> 00:06:20,880 patty labelle 75 00:06:25,670 --> 00:06:24,720 night with some friends a group of 76 00:06:27,029 --> 00:06:25,680 friends 77 00:06:29,909 --> 00:06:27,039 and 78 00:06:32,550 --> 00:06:29,919 patti labelle played literally across 79 00:06:34,309 --> 00:06:32,560 the street from my house uh a 80 00:06:36,309 --> 00:06:34,319 couple blocks up the road across the 81 00:06:38,870 --> 00:06:36,319 street it's right there 82 00:06:39,990 --> 00:06:38,880 is a an outdoor amphitheater it's really 83 00:06:42,629 --> 00:06:40,000 nice 84 00:06:46,550 --> 00:06:42,639 and i've heard stuff going on over there 85 00:06:48,469 --> 00:06:46,560 i i've seen but i've never been there 86 00:06:50,710 --> 00:06:48,479 and i got to go see patti labelle it was 87 00:06:52,390 --> 00:06:50,720 amazing i did some live streams on 88 00:06:53,189 --> 00:06:52,400 facebook you guys can go and check that 89 00:06:55,909 --> 00:06:53,199 out 90 00:06:58,309 --> 00:06:55,919 but uh i've never had 91 00:07:00,469 --> 00:06:58,319 like something like that in my life all 92 00:07:02,710 --> 00:07:00,479 the places that i've lived in and things 93 00:07:04,629 --> 00:07:02,720 to have that happen in your neighborhood 94 00:07:05,909 --> 00:07:04,639 it was just incredible there was 95 00:07:08,390 --> 00:07:05,919 i don't know 96 00:07:09,909 --> 00:07:08,400 there was somewhere between 10 and 20 97 00:07:11,670 --> 00:07:09,919 000 people there 98 00:07:13,749 --> 00:07:11,680 um everybody having a good time it was a 99 00:07:16,390 --> 00:07:13,759 great concert so i did that 100 00:07:19,110 --> 00:07:16,400 on saturday and then we came back to my 101 00:07:21,029 --> 00:07:19,120 house um after that and did some sky 102 00:07:22,469 --> 00:07:21,039 watching uh to the wee hours of the 103 00:07:25,430 --> 00:07:22,479 morning so 104 00:07:27,510 --> 00:07:25,440 it was a lot of fun and i gotta say 105 00:07:31,110 --> 00:07:27,520 patty labelle 106 00:07:33,350 --> 00:07:31,120 man man man and if you haven't seen the 107 00:07:35,270 --> 00:07:33,360 the live stream that i did her voice i 108 00:07:37,430 --> 00:07:35,280 mean she looks great by the way 109 00:07:40,629 --> 00:07:37,440 um but her voice 110 00:07:42,550 --> 00:07:40,639 sounds exactly like it always has man it 111 00:07:45,990 --> 00:07:42,560 was just incredible so anyway 112 00:07:47,990 --> 00:07:46,000 that was saturday now coming up next 113 00:07:50,070 --> 00:07:48,000 month um i've got a couple of things 114 00:07:51,029 --> 00:07:50,080 that i'm doing i'm i'm shooting a new 115 00:07:53,029 --> 00:07:51,039 film 116 00:07:56,710 --> 00:07:53,039 um so that's going to occupy a couple of 117 00:07:59,110 --> 00:07:56,720 weekends um and then coming up this is 118 00:08:00,150 --> 00:07:59,120 coming up very quickly in in about a 119 00:08:04,309 --> 00:08:00,160 month 120 00:08:07,749 --> 00:08:04,319 uh i'll be on tuesday night august 16th 121 00:08:09,270 --> 00:08:07,759 i'll be at u-pars here in los angeles i 122 00:08:11,189 --> 00:08:09,280 talked to steve 123 00:08:12,469 --> 00:08:11,199 murillo about this last week on the show 124 00:08:16,150 --> 00:08:12,479 kickstarting 125 00:08:17,589 --> 00:08:16,160 upars again after the pandemic 126 00:08:22,390 --> 00:08:17,599 two years off 127 00:08:25,430 --> 00:08:22,400 uh upars is back in studio city and uh 128 00:08:28,070 --> 00:08:25,440 yes i'll be speaking come on out 129 00:08:30,390 --> 00:08:28,080 and i'll i'll post uh 130 00:08:32,469 --> 00:08:30,400 information for everybody uh if you 131 00:08:34,469 --> 00:08:32,479 would like to attend where you can get 132 00:08:36,149 --> 00:08:34,479 tickets and and how you do all of that 133 00:08:37,990 --> 00:08:36,159 it's gonna sell out 134 00:08:39,190 --> 00:08:38,000 um and i'm gonna have a bunch of uh 135 00:08:43,190 --> 00:08:39,200 friends 136 00:08:45,269 --> 00:08:43,200 uh there with me on stage so i'm going 137 00:08:46,949 --> 00:08:45,279 to be speaking but i want to do a little 138 00:08:48,870 --> 00:08:46,959 bit of fade to black too as well so 139 00:08:51,190 --> 00:08:48,880 we're going to do that and also we're 140 00:08:53,110 --> 00:08:51,200 going to broadcast live 141 00:08:54,550 --> 00:08:53,120 so even though that's a tuesday night 142 00:08:55,990 --> 00:08:54,560 fade to black's still going to happen 143 00:08:58,949 --> 00:08:56,000 it's just going to happen 144 00:09:02,310 --> 00:08:58,959 live from you pars it's going to be 145 00:09:05,030 --> 00:09:02,320 really really cool so that is going down 146 00:09:06,790 --> 00:09:05,040 again tuesday night august 16th 147 00:09:08,550 --> 00:09:06,800 and i will get 148 00:09:09,430 --> 00:09:08,560 all the information up for everybody 149 00:09:11,670 --> 00:09:09,440 there's 150 00:09:14,949 --> 00:09:11,680 officer and steve 151 00:09:18,710 --> 00:09:14,959 steve told me over the weekend dude 152 00:09:21,590 --> 00:09:18,720 the rsvps are flooding in and and uh i 153 00:09:22,949 --> 00:09:21,600 said just calm down it's gonna be great 154 00:09:24,949 --> 00:09:22,959 don't worry about it man but it's going 155 00:09:27,430 --> 00:09:24,959 to be packed it's going to sell yes it 156 00:09:29,030 --> 00:09:27,440 is what do you expect after two years 157 00:09:32,230 --> 00:09:29,040 it's going to be awesome 158 00:09:33,670 --> 00:09:32,240 so if you're in or around los angeles 159 00:09:36,710 --> 00:09:33,680 you're definitely got 160 00:09:39,750 --> 00:09:36,720 going to uh want to be there for this 161 00:09:41,829 --> 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00:10:55,839 oh 192 00:10:59,670 --> 00:10:57,120 man 193 00:11:01,829 --> 00:10:59,680 promo code is faderbogo we've got links 194 00:11:03,990 --> 00:11:01,839 up throughout social media 195 00:11:06,389 --> 00:11:04,000 and you can certainly click on the link 196 00:11:08,389 --> 00:11:06,399 below in the video description box head 197 00:11:09,509 --> 00:11:08,399 over to twitter facebook wherever you 198 00:11:11,430 --> 00:11:09,519 want to go 199 00:11:14,550 --> 00:11:11,440 and we've got links right there also 200 00:11:17,350 --> 00:11:14,560 over at jimmychurchradio.com 201 00:11:19,269 --> 00:11:17,360 you can follow me on twitter at j church 202 00:11:20,710 --> 00:11:19,279 radio i'm in a great mood why am i in a 203 00:11:24,150 --> 00:11:20,720 great mood 204 00:11:31,590 --> 00:11:28,069 i'm wearing my big kahuna burger t-shirt 205 00:11:33,509 --> 00:11:31,600 yep pulp fiction got the red trim 206 00:11:36,870 --> 00:11:33,519 just like the movie 207 00:11:38,870 --> 00:11:36,880 got me a big kahuna burger t-shirt 208 00:11:40,310 --> 00:11:38,880 that's right 209 00:11:43,430 --> 00:11:40,320 it's pretty cool 210 00:11:45,829 --> 00:11:43,440 follow me on twitter at j church radio 211 00:11:48,310 --> 00:11:45,839 this is what i should do for instagram 212 00:11:49,910 --> 00:11:48,320 should do the uh big i got the funky 213 00:11:53,430 --> 00:11:49,920 shorts on tonight 214 00:11:56,069 --> 00:11:53,440 i am totally playing out that scene 215 00:11:58,550 --> 00:11:56,079 from pulp fiction uh tonight on the show 216 00:12:01,269 --> 00:11:58,560 got my big kahuna burger shirt on 217 00:12:03,910 --> 00:12:01,279 and uh there you go man i'm sore i've 218 00:12:07,670 --> 00:12:03,920 worked out all weekend 219 00:12:09,509 --> 00:12:07,680 oh man five straight days of just 220 00:12:10,310 --> 00:12:09,519 pumping iron 221 00:12:13,350 --> 00:12:10,320 she 222 00:12:15,110 --> 00:12:13,360 whiz man but i'm on a mission 223 00:12:17,030 --> 00:12:15,120 i'm going to transform i'm going to 224 00:12:19,350 --> 00:12:17,040 transform 225 00:12:21,990 --> 00:12:19,360 yeah i need to take like pictures every 226 00:12:23,430 --> 00:12:22,000 single day standing in front of a mirror 227 00:12:25,509 --> 00:12:23,440 right like that 228 00:12:27,910 --> 00:12:25,519 and uh see what that looks like 229 00:12:31,030 --> 00:12:27,920 all right olivia says she made it good 230 00:12:32,389 --> 00:12:31,040 for you that nine seconds ago on twitter 231 00:12:36,470 --> 00:12:32,399 follow 232 00:12:39,590 --> 00:12:36,480 and then head over to hashtag f2b the 233 00:12:40,870 --> 00:12:39,600 sandbox on twitter the funnest place to 234 00:12:42,389 --> 00:12:40,880 hang out 235 00:12:44,550 --> 00:12:42,399 every single night with all the other 236 00:12:46,470 --> 00:12:44,560 fader knots all right let's get to the 237 00:12:48,069 --> 00:12:46,480 breaking news you heard everything as it 238 00:12:49,829 --> 00:12:48,079 went down 239 00:12:54,230 --> 00:12:49,839 twitter 240 00:12:55,350 --> 00:12:54,240 says it's 44 billion dollar sale to elon 241 00:12:58,310 --> 00:12:55,360 musk 242 00:12:59,590 --> 00:12:58,320 is still on and it will go to court to 243 00:13:03,590 --> 00:12:59,600 make it happen 244 00:13:05,590 --> 00:13:03,600 despite elon's declaration 245 00:13:07,509 --> 00:13:05,600 he's breaking it off 246 00:13:10,389 --> 00:13:07,519 he's walking 247 00:13:12,790 --> 00:13:10,399 and his series of tweets of him laughing 248 00:13:13,910 --> 00:13:12,800 at twitter it's so weird they didn't 249 00:13:15,750 --> 00:13:13,920 want him 250 00:13:17,829 --> 00:13:15,760 now they want now they're gonna force 251 00:13:18,790 --> 00:13:17,839 the sale when they didn't want it it's 252 00:13:21,829 --> 00:13:18,800 it's 253 00:13:24,470 --> 00:13:21,839 twitter said today and i quote 254 00:13:27,470 --> 00:13:24,480 twitter reserves all contractual legal 255 00:13:29,750 --> 00:13:27,480 and other rights including its right to 256 00:13:32,629 --> 00:13:29,760 specifically enforce 257 00:13:34,550 --> 00:13:32,639 the musk parties 258 00:13:36,949 --> 00:13:34,560 that's right 259 00:13:39,670 --> 00:13:36,959 all of their obligations 260 00:13:46,949 --> 00:13:39,680 under the agreement end quote 261 00:13:53,030 --> 00:13:48,550 you guys are funny 262 00:13:54,069 --> 00:13:53,040 the big kahuna look there it is there it 263 00:13:55,269 --> 00:13:54,079 is 264 00:13:58,470 --> 00:13:55,279 all right 265 00:14:00,069 --> 00:13:58,480 well now check this out 266 00:14:02,629 --> 00:14:00,079 i don't know if this is a good idea or 267 00:14:04,790 --> 00:14:02,639 not but this is what's happening 268 00:14:09,189 --> 00:14:04,800 a raft 269 00:14:11,189 --> 00:14:09,199 of thin film silicon bubbles deployed 270 00:14:13,910 --> 00:14:11,199 from earth into outer space and 271 00:14:16,150 --> 00:14:13,920 stretching to the size of brazil 272 00:14:18,710 --> 00:14:16,160 could potentially block the sun's solar 273 00:14:20,949 --> 00:14:18,720 radiation from further warming earth 274 00:14:22,710 --> 00:14:20,959 possibly helping to not only stave off 275 00:14:25,670 --> 00:14:22,720 climate change 276 00:14:28,710 --> 00:14:25,680 but potentially reverse it 277 00:14:30,470 --> 00:14:28,720 this new space bubbles plan offered by 278 00:14:33,430 --> 00:14:30,480 scientists at the massachusetts 279 00:14:36,389 --> 00:14:33,440 institute of technology mit 280 00:14:39,829 --> 00:14:36,399 is a concept first offered by astronomer 281 00:14:41,990 --> 00:14:39,839 roger angel the team of architects 282 00:14:45,590 --> 00:14:42,000 civil and mechanical engineers 283 00:14:47,430 --> 00:14:45,600 physicists and material scientists have 284 00:14:50,550 --> 00:14:47,440 worked on the technical and social 285 00:14:54,389 --> 00:14:50,560 aspects of what the group calls quote a 286 00:14:55,949 --> 00:14:54,399 planetary scale project and quote in an 287 00:14:58,470 --> 00:14:55,959 effort to find a 288 00:15:00,790 --> 00:14:58,480 non-earth-bound solution 289 00:15:04,389 --> 00:15:00,800 to climate change 290 00:15:07,750 --> 00:15:04,399 silicon bubbles in space 291 00:15:10,829 --> 00:15:07,760 to be movie from 1955. all right well it 292 00:15:16,550 --> 00:15:14,150 mind-blowing incredible 293 00:15:19,990 --> 00:15:16,560 all happened with the president biden by 294 00:15:22,470 --> 00:15:20,000 the way the james webb space telescope 295 00:15:23,750 --> 00:15:22,480 may be getting most of the attention 296 00:15:26,389 --> 00:15:23,760 this summer 297 00:15:28,389 --> 00:15:26,399 but check this out i'm going to get to 298 00:15:29,749 --> 00:15:28,399 hubble's recent 299 00:15:32,790 --> 00:15:29,759 newest 300 00:15:34,389 --> 00:15:32,800 first image in just a second because 301 00:15:37,189 --> 00:15:34,399 next year 302 00:15:39,670 --> 00:15:37,199 nasa's astrophysics stratospheric 303 00:15:42,470 --> 00:15:39,680 telescope for high spectral resolution 304 00:15:43,829 --> 00:15:42,480 observations at the sub millimeter 305 00:15:47,030 --> 00:15:43,839 wavelengths 306 00:15:49,509 --> 00:15:47,040 or atheros instrument is going to launch 307 00:15:51,269 --> 00:15:49,519 atheros is not a space telescope or a 308 00:15:54,949 --> 00:15:51,279 ground-based telescope it's something in 309 00:15:57,509 --> 00:15:54,959 between hovering the stratosphere 310 00:16:02,069 --> 00:15:57,519 nasa intends to fly the instrument to an 311 00:16:03,670 --> 00:16:02,079 altitude of 130 000 feet via 312 00:16:08,949 --> 00:16:03,680 a balloon 313 00:16:11,030 --> 00:16:08,959 football field deploying it over 314 00:16:12,470 --> 00:16:11,040 antarctica 315 00:16:14,710 --> 00:16:12,480 that's right 316 00:16:16,310 --> 00:16:14,720 they're gonna do this for four weeks at 317 00:16:19,269 --> 00:16:16,320 a time the benefit of flying the 318 00:16:22,069 --> 00:16:19,279 telescope at that altitude 319 00:16:24,790 --> 00:16:22,079 in antarctica dramatically reduces 320 00:16:27,430 --> 00:16:24,800 interference by earth's atmosphere and 321 00:16:29,910 --> 00:16:27,440 aspects that is crucial to the atheros 322 00:16:32,310 --> 00:16:29,920 mission the telescope will study an 323 00:16:35,509 --> 00:16:32,320 unusual phenomenon called stellar 324 00:16:38,870 --> 00:16:35,519 feedback a process by which living stars 325 00:16:41,350 --> 00:16:38,880 and dying ones stir up the clouds of gas 326 00:16:42,310 --> 00:16:41,360 and dust around them 327 00:16:43,749 --> 00:16:42,320 over 328 00:16:45,990 --> 00:16:43,759 antarctica 329 00:16:47,350 --> 00:16:46,000 well it went down today i i just i 330 00:16:49,110 --> 00:16:47,360 didn't know if i was going to share this 331 00:16:52,150 --> 00:16:49,120 but it's pretty interesting 332 00:16:59,670 --> 00:16:55,269 a prominent russian politician 333 00:17:01,509 --> 00:16:59,680 has threatened to use force to take back 334 00:17:02,710 --> 00:17:01,519 alaska 335 00:17:05,029 --> 00:17:02,720 that's right 336 00:17:07,750 --> 00:17:05,039 prominent ally of russian president 337 00:17:09,189 --> 00:17:07,760 vladimir putin and member of russia's 338 00:17:12,949 --> 00:17:09,199 legislature 339 00:17:16,789 --> 00:17:12,959 threatened last week to invade alaska 340 00:17:19,909 --> 00:17:16,799 and reclaim the former russian territory 341 00:17:23,350 --> 00:17:21,990 viaxlev 342 00:17:26,069 --> 00:17:23,360 valadin 343 00:17:28,950 --> 00:17:26,079 said russia would take back alaska 344 00:17:31,750 --> 00:17:28,960 using the same language that putin used 345 00:17:38,549 --> 00:17:31,760 to describe his invasion 346 00:17:43,669 --> 00:17:40,630 that ain't gonna happen 347 00:17:45,750 --> 00:17:43,679 the identity of an unknown god described 348 00:17:47,270 --> 00:17:45,760 in inscriptions from the ancient city of 349 00:17:50,310 --> 00:17:47,280 palmyra 350 00:17:52,710 --> 00:17:50,320 located in modern day syria 351 00:17:55,270 --> 00:17:52,720 has long baffled scientists but now a 352 00:17:57,750 --> 00:17:55,280 research new research declares 353 00:18:00,230 --> 00:17:57,760 that they have cracked the case 354 00:18:01,909 --> 00:18:00,240 palmyra flourished around 2000 years ago 355 00:18:04,070 --> 00:18:01,919 as a center of trade that connected the 356 00:18:06,870 --> 00:18:04,080 roman empire with asia 357 00:18:10,070 --> 00:18:06,880 the anonymous deity is mentioned in 358 00:18:13,029 --> 00:18:10,080 numerous aramaic inscriptions at palmyra 359 00:18:15,350 --> 00:18:13,039 and is referred to as 360 00:18:17,990 --> 00:18:15,360 he whose name 361 00:18:19,029 --> 00:18:18,000 is blessed forever 362 00:18:20,390 --> 00:18:19,039 and 363 00:18:22,390 --> 00:18:20,400 the lord 364 00:18:24,230 --> 00:18:22,400 of the universe 365 00:18:27,029 --> 00:18:24,240 that's right all of this according to 366 00:18:28,390 --> 00:18:27,039 science in poland a new site run by the 367 00:18:30,870 --> 00:18:28,400 polish government 368 00:18:33,350 --> 00:18:30,880 an independent journalist many of these 369 00:18:34,950 --> 00:18:33,360 inscriptions date back two thousand 370 00:18:37,909 --> 00:18:34,960 years ago now 371 00:18:40,310 --> 00:18:37,919 scientists from the university of maclaw 372 00:18:42,870 --> 00:18:40,320 in poland revealed that the anonymous 373 00:18:45,990 --> 00:18:42,880 god mentioned in the inscriptions 374 00:18:49,590 --> 00:18:46,000 is not a single god but rather multiple 375 00:18:51,190 --> 00:18:49,600 deities that include belmar duke and 376 00:18:53,350 --> 00:18:51,200 baal shaman 377 00:18:56,230 --> 00:18:53,360 they also contend that people did not 378 00:18:57,430 --> 00:18:56,240 mention the name of these deities out of 379 00:18:59,430 --> 00:18:57,440 a sign 380 00:19:01,830 --> 00:18:59,440 of respect 381 00:19:03,190 --> 00:19:01,840 there you go the first image it went 382 00:19:05,350 --> 00:19:03,200 down today 383 00:19:07,750 --> 00:19:05,360 again with president biden the first 384 00:19:09,110 --> 00:19:07,760 image from nasa's james webb space 385 00:19:12,310 --> 00:19:09,120 telescope 386 00:19:14,789 --> 00:19:12,320 was released today 387 00:19:15,990 --> 00:19:14,799 i'm very rarely blown away but listen to 388 00:19:18,789 --> 00:19:16,000 this 389 00:19:21,590 --> 00:19:18,799 it's the deepest and sharpest infrared 390 00:19:25,270 --> 00:19:21,600 image of the distant universe to date 391 00:19:30,870 --> 00:19:25,280 known as webb's first deep field 392 00:19:36,870 --> 00:19:33,350 is insane 393 00:19:38,710 --> 00:19:36,880 thousands of galaxies and this slice of 394 00:19:41,270 --> 00:19:38,720 the vast universe 395 00:19:43,830 --> 00:19:41,280 covers a patch of sky 396 00:19:45,110 --> 00:19:43,840 approximately the size of a grain of 397 00:19:47,669 --> 00:19:45,120 sand 398 00:19:49,430 --> 00:19:47,679 held at arm's length 399 00:19:53,270 --> 00:19:49,440 that's right i talk about this all the 400 00:19:55,590 --> 00:19:53,280 time i i would go out at conferences and 401 00:19:56,870 --> 00:19:55,600 i would start i'm thousands of people in 402 00:19:58,470 --> 00:19:56,880 front of me and i would go hey man give 403 00:20:00,310 --> 00:19:58,480 me a dime somebody in the front row and 404 00:20:02,630 --> 00:20:00,320 they'd give me a dime and i go man hold 405 00:20:05,110 --> 00:20:02,640 up this dime to the sky 406 00:20:07,110 --> 00:20:05,120 pick a blank spot out and you are 407 00:20:09,590 --> 00:20:07,120 looking at a hundred and fifty thousand 408 00:20:12,950 --> 00:20:09,600 galaxies and everybody go oh uh is that 409 00:20:16,310 --> 00:20:12,960 true is that is that really true now 410 00:20:17,510 --> 00:20:16,320 it's down to a grain of sand 411 00:20:20,630 --> 00:20:17,520 it's like these 412 00:20:22,470 --> 00:20:20,640 they stole my idea but anyway so now 413 00:20:23,909 --> 00:20:22,480 i've got to change my presentations i'm 414 00:20:25,350 --> 00:20:23,919 going to do it i'm going to bring out a 415 00:20:26,870 --> 00:20:25,360 little baggie of sand i'm going to 416 00:20:28,630 --> 00:20:26,880 sprinkle it out of my hand i'm going to 417 00:20:30,390 --> 00:20:28,640 take out a little grain of sand i'm 418 00:20:33,029 --> 00:20:30,400 going to hold that up 419 00:20:35,270 --> 00:20:33,039 and repeat the same thing because that's 420 00:20:38,070 --> 00:20:35,280 what is going down 421 00:20:39,669 --> 00:20:38,080 this deep field taken by webb's near 422 00:20:41,110 --> 00:20:39,679 infrared camera 423 00:20:43,350 --> 00:20:41,120 near cam 424 00:20:46,190 --> 00:20:43,360 is a composite made from images at 425 00:20:49,350 --> 00:20:46,200 different wavelengths totaling two 426 00:20:51,669 --> 00:20:49,360 12.5 hours that's how long it took to 427 00:20:53,830 --> 00:20:51,679 expose just 12 and a half hours as you 428 00:20:55,590 --> 00:20:53,840 remember and i've done presentations on 429 00:20:58,710 --> 00:20:55,600 the show many times 430 00:21:01,510 --> 00:20:58,720 hubble's space telescope's deepest field 431 00:21:05,190 --> 00:21:01,520 images that i've shown you many times 432 00:21:07,430 --> 00:21:05,200 took two weeks to expose 433 00:21:10,230 --> 00:21:07,440 this is incredible twelve and a half 434 00:21:13,190 --> 00:21:10,240 hours the image shows the galaxy cluster 435 00:21:15,750 --> 00:21:13,200 of sm acs0723 436 00:21:16,950 --> 00:21:15,760 as it appeared four and a half billion 437 00:21:18,789 --> 00:21:16,960 years ago 438 00:21:21,669 --> 00:21:18,799 webb's near cam has brought those 439 00:21:24,149 --> 00:21:21,679 distant galaxies into sharp focus 440 00:21:26,230 --> 00:21:24,159 they have tiny faint structures that 441 00:21:29,190 --> 00:21:26,240 have never been seen before including 442 00:21:31,270 --> 00:21:29,200 star clusters most of these galaxies in 443 00:21:34,710 --> 00:21:31,280 the image released today 444 00:21:36,630 --> 00:21:34,720 have never been seen before this image 445 00:21:39,350 --> 00:21:36,640 is among the telescope's first full 446 00:21:42,950 --> 00:21:39,360 color images the full suite will be 447 00:21:46,870 --> 00:21:42,960 released tomorrow july 12th beginning at 448 00:21:49,270 --> 00:21:46,880 10 30 a.m eastern time during a live 449 00:21:52,630 --> 00:21:49,280 nasa tv broadcast gonna last all day 450 00:21:57,029 --> 00:21:52,640 that's part one it's gonna spill over to 451 00:21:59,029 --> 00:21:57,039 wednesday july 13th this is absolutely 452 00:22:01,270 --> 00:21:59,039 incredible this 453 00:22:02,549 --> 00:22:01,280 is a game changer let's get this show 454 00:22:08,310 --> 00:22:02,559 cracking 455 00:22:11,669 --> 00:22:08,320 on this day in history otd 1979 456 00:22:12,710 --> 00:22:11,679 parts of sky lab america's first space 457 00:22:15,750 --> 00:22:12,720 station 458 00:22:17,270 --> 00:22:15,760 come crashing down on australia and into 459 00:22:20,470 --> 00:22:17,280 the indian ocean 460 00:22:22,549 --> 00:22:20,480 five years after the last manned uh 461 00:22:25,110 --> 00:22:22,559 skylab mission ended 462 00:22:29,430 --> 00:22:25,120 no one was injured 463 00:22:31,909 --> 00:22:29,440 all right here's your fader fact 464 00:22:33,029 --> 00:22:31,919 this is a good one 465 00:22:35,909 --> 00:22:33,039 before 466 00:22:38,390 --> 00:22:35,919 he was the best-selling author of the da 467 00:22:41,669 --> 00:22:38,400 vinci code 468 00:22:43,270 --> 00:22:41,679 dan brown thought 469 00:22:46,390 --> 00:22:43,280 he was a musician 470 00:22:47,990 --> 00:22:46,400 that's right in 1994 he released an 471 00:22:49,909 --> 00:22:48,000 album called 472 00:22:52,149 --> 00:22:49,919 angels and demons 473 00:22:53,110 --> 00:22:52,159 i'm not making this up 474 00:22:55,190 --> 00:22:53,120 well 475 00:22:56,310 --> 00:22:55,200 that didn't work out 476 00:23:00,149 --> 00:22:56,320 so 477 00:23:02,230 --> 00:23:00,159 he wrote the book angel in demons 478 00:23:04,070 --> 00:23:02,240 yeah like two years later 479 00:23:06,390 --> 00:23:04,080 and then in 2003 480 00:23:09,270 --> 00:23:06,400 published another book 481 00:23:11,110 --> 00:23:09,280 called the da vinci code 482 00:23:12,789 --> 00:23:11,120 and that 483 00:23:13,830 --> 00:23:12,799 is your fader fact 484 00:23:17,909 --> 00:23:13,840 tonight 485 00:23:18,789 --> 00:23:17,919 we welcome very special guest 486 00:23:19,990 --> 00:23:18,799 me 487 00:23:22,230 --> 00:23:20,000 that's right 488 00:23:24,470 --> 00:23:22,240 i'm gonna be discussing the secrets of 489 00:23:26,470 --> 00:23:24,480 time travel 490 00:23:29,830 --> 00:23:26,480 two and a half hours two and a half 491 00:23:33,029 --> 00:23:29,840 hours i've got over 50 images 492 00:23:34,390 --> 00:23:33,039 and i'm letting my brain loose tonight 493 00:23:36,710 --> 00:23:34,400 tomorrow night 494 00:23:38,310 --> 00:23:36,720 scott walter is here for the secrets of 495 00:23:40,870 --> 00:23:38,320 america 496 00:23:42,070 --> 00:23:40,880 wednesday night kelly sullivan walden 497 00:23:43,830 --> 00:23:42,080 returns 498 00:23:45,190 --> 00:23:43,840 she's going to be with us to talk about 499 00:23:48,310 --> 00:23:45,200 the secrets 500 00:23:49,510 --> 00:23:48,320 of dreams and i cannot wait she just 501 00:23:50,630 --> 00:23:49,520 texted me 502 00:23:52,230 --> 00:23:50,640 right now 503 00:23:54,390 --> 00:23:52,240 i can't wait for wednesday man it's 504 00:23:56,390 --> 00:23:54,400 gonna be so great it is 505 00:23:59,830 --> 00:23:56,400 kelly is here wednesday night thursday 506 00:24:01,430 --> 00:23:59,840 is another fader night with open lines 507 00:24:03,510 --> 00:24:01,440 all night long 508 00:24:04,950 --> 00:24:03,520 and right now you're probably wondering 509 00:24:06,870 --> 00:24:04,960 what i'm doing 510 00:24:10,390 --> 00:24:06,880 nothing that top secret 511 00:24:13,750 --> 00:24:10,400 i'm turning my thermostat on 512 00:24:18,390 --> 00:24:16,310 that's my top secret text 513 00:24:19,990 --> 00:24:18,400 that i'm doing right now all right now 514 00:24:21,909 --> 00:24:20,000 it's time for me to hit this river moon 515 00:24:28,310 --> 00:24:21,919 coffee 516 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:35,669 oh man 517 00:24:43,350 --> 00:24:39,029 fade to black blend 518 00:24:46,310 --> 00:24:43,360 i like my coffee doc i do 519 00:24:49,830 --> 00:24:46,320 i like it will the thunderstorm work in 520 00:24:51,669 --> 00:24:49,840 my truck that's from deuce diaz it will 521 00:24:54,390 --> 00:24:51,679 that's a text that just came in a few 522 00:24:56,549 --> 00:24:54,400 minutes ago yes deuce 523 00:24:59,029 --> 00:24:56,559 it's usb 524 00:25:01,669 --> 00:24:59,039 man that's a nice truck 525 00:25:02,870 --> 00:25:01,679 look at that tractor trailer man i love 526 00:25:06,789 --> 00:25:02,880 truckers 527 00:25:07,990 --> 00:25:06,799 man i love every truck ever man 528 00:25:09,350 --> 00:25:08,000 everyone 529 00:25:11,669 --> 00:25:09,360 listening to this show while they're 530 00:25:13,909 --> 00:25:11,679 driving going 531 00:25:15,669 --> 00:25:13,919 i always take a time travel get my truck 532 00:25:17,190 --> 00:25:15,679 there sooner i know i know what you say 533 00:25:18,950 --> 00:25:17,200 make this delivery 534 00:25:21,909 --> 00:25:18,960 i hear you 535 00:25:23,510 --> 00:25:21,919 all right sarah and tweeting out too as 536 00:25:27,269 --> 00:25:23,520 well all right 537 00:25:29,830 --> 00:25:27,279 everybody is in tasty burger what do you 538 00:25:31,750 --> 00:25:29,840 guys do 539 00:25:34,950 --> 00:25:31,760 big goon is that right 540 00:25:37,029 --> 00:25:34,960 you can actually eat a big kahuna burger 541 00:25:40,390 --> 00:25:37,039 had me one when i was in imperial beach 542 00:25:42,870 --> 00:25:40,400 san diego and in mexico oh okay 543 00:25:44,230 --> 00:25:42,880 all right i didn't know that 544 00:25:46,950 --> 00:25:44,240 all right 545 00:25:48,950 --> 00:25:46,960 tonight we welcome very special guest me 546 00:25:50,549 --> 00:25:48,960 i am going to be discussing the secrets 547 00:25:52,630 --> 00:25:50,559 of time travel 548 00:25:55,269 --> 00:25:52,640 and uh tomorrow night scott walter is 549 00:25:57,990 --> 00:25:55,279 here and then wednesday night 550 00:26:01,110 --> 00:25:58,000 kelly sullivan walden but tonight it's 551 00:26:03,669 --> 00:26:01,120 about time travel and i know a lot 552 00:26:04,549 --> 00:26:03,679 of you think and and so do i at times 553 00:26:08,470 --> 00:26:04,559 that 554 00:26:10,789 --> 00:26:08,480 time travel it's my favorite subject 555 00:26:14,230 --> 00:26:10,799 but nah 556 00:26:15,430 --> 00:26:14,240 it's a six seven eight-way tie 557 00:26:17,990 --> 00:26:15,440 because 558 00:26:19,430 --> 00:26:18,000 we've got egypt 559 00:26:21,750 --> 00:26:19,440 right 560 00:26:23,029 --> 00:26:21,760 we've got ufos 561 00:26:27,510 --> 00:26:23,039 right 562 00:26:29,669 --> 00:26:27,520 got ghosts 563 00:26:32,230 --> 00:26:29,679 we've got the supernatural we've got the 564 00:26:34,630 --> 00:26:32,240 paranormal we've got physics we've got 565 00:26:36,549 --> 00:26:34,640 space 566 00:26:38,549 --> 00:26:36,559 everything's just equal to me and then 567 00:26:41,029 --> 00:26:38,559 we've got time travel 568 00:26:42,230 --> 00:26:41,039 it's just where my head is 569 00:26:45,110 --> 00:26:42,240 that week 570 00:26:47,029 --> 00:26:45,120 right that month and i am going through 571 00:26:49,669 --> 00:26:47,039 these cycles and you've seen me do this 572 00:26:51,190 --> 00:26:49,679 now for years where i do these cycles of 573 00:26:53,510 --> 00:26:51,200 research and when i'm in the middle of 574 00:26:55,350 --> 00:26:53,520 research like man that would be a good 575 00:26:58,870 --> 00:26:55,360 guess this week let's reach out to so 576 00:27:01,110 --> 00:26:58,880 and so you can see where my head is at 577 00:27:02,630 --> 00:27:01,120 and lately over the last couple of 578 00:27:04,070 --> 00:27:02,640 months i've been talking about time 579 00:27:07,190 --> 00:27:04,080 travel i've been talking about time 580 00:27:09,190 --> 00:27:07,200 travel a lot and i've been doing a lot 581 00:27:11,990 --> 00:27:09,200 of research and when you go 582 00:27:13,190 --> 00:27:12,000 and and do the research that i do and 583 00:27:15,669 --> 00:27:13,200 there are 584 00:27:16,789 --> 00:27:15,679 um you know the researchers and authors 585 00:27:21,830 --> 00:27:16,799 and and 586 00:27:23,909 --> 00:27:21,840 community and i do that but i also like 587 00:27:26,149 --> 00:27:23,919 to go outside of our community what is 588 00:27:27,590 --> 00:27:26,159 science saying you know and what has 589 00:27:29,350 --> 00:27:27,600 been said about it in the past what 590 00:27:30,230 --> 00:27:29,360 about the ancient past 591 00:27:37,110 --> 00:27:30,240 and 592 00:27:40,549 --> 00:27:37,120 over the years i have thought about 593 00:27:41,510 --> 00:27:40,559 every angle of time travel every single 594 00:27:44,149 --> 00:27:41,520 one 595 00:27:45,990 --> 00:27:44,159 and it goes back to 596 00:27:48,549 --> 00:27:46,000 um when i was 597 00:27:51,029 --> 00:27:48,559 18 19 years old 598 00:27:52,870 --> 00:27:51,039 i wrote i'll call it a short story it 599 00:27:54,549 --> 00:27:52,880 was longer than a short story but it 600 00:27:57,110 --> 00:27:54,559 wasn't quite a book it was like in 601 00:27:59,830 --> 00:27:57,120 between but i wrote a story about time 602 00:28:00,870 --> 00:27:59,840 travel while i was at bell laboratories 603 00:28:04,470 --> 00:28:00,880 and 604 00:28:06,789 --> 00:28:04,480 it's weird because even though 605 00:28:08,789 --> 00:28:06,799 i kind of knew back then it was 50 years 606 00:28:11,430 --> 00:28:08,799 ago i kind of knew 607 00:28:14,310 --> 00:28:11,440 a little bit about paradoxes and things 608 00:28:17,430 --> 00:28:14,320 but it wasn't nah i that stuff didn't 609 00:28:19,510 --> 00:28:17,440 really enter my mind but what i ended up 610 00:28:21,909 --> 00:28:19,520 writing 611 00:28:24,310 --> 00:28:21,919 was a friggin paradox 612 00:28:26,950 --> 00:28:24,320 and that 613 00:28:29,269 --> 00:28:26,960 that i was in a loop had nothing to do 614 00:28:31,110 --> 00:28:29,279 with a paradox 615 00:28:34,149 --> 00:28:31,120 it was that 616 00:28:36,070 --> 00:28:34,159 the story itself as i wrote it 617 00:28:38,149 --> 00:28:36,080 wrote itself 618 00:28:41,350 --> 00:28:38,159 into a paradox 619 00:28:43,510 --> 00:28:41,360 and i have been on this ever since 620 00:28:47,110 --> 00:28:43,520 so tonight we are going to go through it 621 00:28:49,269 --> 00:28:47,120 all um i am going to start in uh deep 622 00:28:52,149 --> 00:28:49,279 history and i'm gonna go through it and 623 00:28:54,310 --> 00:28:52,159 i've got it broken down into uh five 624 00:28:55,669 --> 00:28:54,320 different groups we have five segments 625 00:28:58,630 --> 00:28:55,679 on the show 626 00:29:00,310 --> 00:28:58,640 so uh i've got it broken down and and i 627 00:29:03,909 --> 00:29:00,320 also want to talk about time travel 628 00:29:05,590 --> 00:29:03,919 movies so i've got that uh two as well 629 00:29:06,549 --> 00:29:05,600 tonight so we're gonna go through all of 630 00:29:07,909 --> 00:29:06,559 that 631 00:29:10,630 --> 00:29:07,919 uh 632 00:29:13,909 --> 00:29:10,640 like everything else like it's 633 00:29:16,389 --> 00:29:13,919 going to be probably uh on monday nights 634 00:29:17,909 --> 00:29:16,399 for a while 635 00:29:21,350 --> 00:29:17,919 take notes 636 00:29:23,590 --> 00:29:21,360 and hopefully i will be sharing what i 637 00:29:25,430 --> 00:29:23,600 have learned over the years 638 00:29:27,830 --> 00:29:25,440 with you and tonight you're gonna learn 639 00:29:30,630 --> 00:29:27,840 something and that's the goal 640 00:29:32,549 --> 00:29:30,640 so tonight it is time travel tomorrow 641 00:29:34,870 --> 00:29:32,559 night scott walters here 642 00:29:37,590 --> 00:29:34,880 the secrets of america and much more he 643 00:29:39,350 --> 00:29:37,600 just got back from another research trip 644 00:29:40,710 --> 00:29:39,360 so we'll be discussing that tomorrow 645 00:29:44,310 --> 00:29:40,720 night as well 646 00:29:47,669 --> 00:29:44,320 wednesday night kelly sullivan walden is 647 00:29:49,990 --> 00:29:47,679 back and she just got back from a trip 648 00:29:52,389 --> 00:29:50,000 and she's going to be with us wednesday 649 00:29:53,190 --> 00:29:52,399 night for the secrets of dreams thursday 650 00:29:58,630 --> 00:29:53,200 night 651 00:30:01,029 --> 00:29:58,640 yours jimmy church 652 00:30:03,269 --> 00:30:01,039 on the game changer and on x networks 653 00:30:05,190 --> 00:30:03,279 race hobbes 654 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:05,200 tonight is time travel right after this 655 00:30:33,990 --> 00:30:07,570 short break stay with us 656 00:30:38,389 --> 00:30:36,149 this is nicole church daughter of you 657 00:30:39,389 --> 00:30:38,399 know who and you're listening to fade to 658 00:30:41,029 --> 00:30:39,399 black on 659 00:30:43,909 --> 00:30:41,039 jimmychurchradio.com and the game 660 00:30:47,590 --> 00:30:46,070 you're listening to jimmy church and 661 00:30:53,990 --> 00:30:47,600 fade to black 662 00:31:00,470 --> 00:30:56,310 you're listening to jimmy church fade to 663 00:31:03,730 --> 00:31:02,710 fate to black will now pause for alien 664 00:31:09,029 --> 00:31:03,740 identification 665 00:31:13,830 --> 00:31:11,190 when you take the beans from central 666 00:31:16,230 --> 00:31:13,840 america with dashes of indonesian and 667 00:31:19,430 --> 00:31:16,240 african mixed in and then roasted to the 668 00:31:21,990 --> 00:31:19,440 dark side of fade to black you create 669 00:31:24,870 --> 00:31:22,000 the ultimate brew of fringe 670 00:31:28,149 --> 00:31:24,880 introducing the fade to black blend from 671 00:31:30,950 --> 00:31:28,159 river moon 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00:35:33,599 is not 759 00:35:40,310 --> 00:35:36,160 your father's radio show 760 00:35:42,390 --> 00:35:40,320 on the game changer radio network 761 00:35:43,670 --> 00:35:42,400 hi this is rob reiner from anvil and 762 00:35:46,950 --> 00:35:43,680 you're listening to jimmy 763 00:35:52,540 --> 00:35:48,829 what's up chris what up this 764 00:36:09,109 --> 00:35:52,550 is jimmy church radio 765 00:36:13,910 --> 00:36:11,510 all right welcome back fade to black i 766 00:36:16,630 --> 00:36:13,920 am your host jimmy church 767 00:36:18,550 --> 00:36:16,640 our guest tonight is me we are doing the 768 00:36:20,470 --> 00:36:18,560 secrets of time travel tonight there's a 769 00:36:21,990 --> 00:36:20,480 lot to discuss 770 00:36:23,430 --> 00:36:22,000 and uh 771 00:36:25,510 --> 00:36:23,440 i i think i've got a pretty good 772 00:36:26,390 --> 00:36:25,520 presentation put together 773 00:36:29,190 --> 00:36:26,400 and 774 00:36:32,470 --> 00:36:29,200 the thing is about time travel 775 00:36:34,630 --> 00:36:32,480 it's it's so complex it's so deep and 776 00:36:36,310 --> 00:36:34,640 there's so many theories and ideas out 777 00:36:37,109 --> 00:36:36,320 there a show like this tonight even 778 00:36:38,550 --> 00:36:37,119 though 779 00:36:40,310 --> 00:36:38,560 it's going to be a full two and a half 780 00:36:43,430 --> 00:36:40,320 hours 781 00:36:46,710 --> 00:36:43,440 it's just going to scratch the surface 782 00:36:48,310 --> 00:36:46,720 and uh i can see a part two coming up 783 00:36:50,550 --> 00:36:48,320 where we can take any one of the 784 00:36:53,430 --> 00:36:50,560 subjects tonight that i am going to 785 00:36:56,069 --> 00:36:53,440 discuss and expand that out into two and 786 00:36:57,430 --> 00:36:56,079 a half hours because one thing is for 787 00:36:59,109 --> 00:36:57,440 sure 788 00:37:02,390 --> 00:36:59,119 time travel 789 00:37:04,150 --> 00:37:02,400 is one of the most fun 790 00:37:04,950 --> 00:37:04,160 one of the most crazy and one of the 791 00:37:07,430 --> 00:37:04,960 most 792 00:37:09,829 --> 00:37:07,440 romantic ideas 793 00:37:11,670 --> 00:37:09,839 that we can have right what if we could 794 00:37:13,990 --> 00:37:11,680 time travel 795 00:37:15,430 --> 00:37:14,000 what what if we could go back and fix 796 00:37:19,270 --> 00:37:15,440 something 797 00:37:23,109 --> 00:37:19,280 you know a relationship that went wrong 798 00:37:26,470 --> 00:37:23,119 your grades in school maybe you would 799 00:37:27,750 --> 00:37:26,480 uh have actually gone to college 800 00:37:29,750 --> 00:37:27,760 right 801 00:37:31,990 --> 00:37:29,760 you know your job 802 00:37:35,349 --> 00:37:32,000 your career 803 00:37:37,750 --> 00:37:35,359 you know and and and go back it is 804 00:37:41,430 --> 00:37:37,760 again it's just 805 00:37:43,589 --> 00:37:41,440 uh a romantic warm thought 806 00:37:45,030 --> 00:37:43,599 to be able to go back and do these 807 00:37:46,069 --> 00:37:45,040 things 808 00:37:48,230 --> 00:37:46,079 now 809 00:37:50,390 --> 00:37:48,240 in some instances 810 00:37:52,069 --> 00:37:50,400 a lot of us think that this is a modern 811 00:37:56,150 --> 00:37:52,079 concept 812 00:37:58,630 --> 00:37:56,160 that this is a a technological thing 813 00:38:01,589 --> 00:37:58,640 right um no 814 00:38:05,349 --> 00:38:01,599 uh time travel has been discussed for 815 00:38:06,630 --> 00:38:05,359 thousands of years right or maybe it 816 00:38:09,109 --> 00:38:06,640 would be to 817 00:38:11,109 --> 00:38:09,119 go to the future 818 00:38:14,310 --> 00:38:11,119 right to see where things end up with 819 00:38:15,349 --> 00:38:14,320 you or maybe into the far and distant 820 00:38:18,310 --> 00:38:15,359 future 821 00:38:21,510 --> 00:38:18,320 you know thousands of years to see where 822 00:38:23,670 --> 00:38:21,520 humanity is and and earth and and all of 823 00:38:25,910 --> 00:38:23,680 that and what technology 824 00:38:28,790 --> 00:38:25,920 is going to be like then 825 00:38:31,510 --> 00:38:28,800 you know all of these ideas are there 826 00:38:33,430 --> 00:38:31,520 and and i get it and i do it too i have 827 00:38:35,750 --> 00:38:33,440 thought about it i have discussed this 828 00:38:38,790 --> 00:38:35,760 on the show you know what if 829 00:38:39,910 --> 00:38:38,800 what if i went back in time 830 00:38:47,190 --> 00:38:39,920 and 831 00:38:51,349 --> 00:38:47,200 of of van halen ii right 832 00:38:52,230 --> 00:38:51,359 uh my nightstand in 1977 833 00:38:58,950 --> 00:38:52,240 or 834 00:39:04,870 --> 00:39:02,710 david lee roth's eden smile 835 00:39:07,910 --> 00:39:04,880 with steve vi and you know what if i put 836 00:39:10,150 --> 00:39:07,920 that on my nightstand 837 00:39:11,589 --> 00:39:10,160 what would have happened to me as as a 838 00:39:14,310 --> 00:39:11,599 guitar player 839 00:39:16,150 --> 00:39:14,320 you know and and and i've i've thought 840 00:39:19,190 --> 00:39:16,160 about these things and i've discussed 841 00:39:22,870 --> 00:39:19,200 them and all of the all of this 842 00:39:25,990 --> 00:39:24,310 but 843 00:39:27,430 --> 00:39:26,000 it's not modern 844 00:39:29,109 --> 00:39:27,440 it's not 845 00:39:32,870 --> 00:39:29,119 it goes back 846 00:39:35,750 --> 00:39:32,880 thousands and thousands of years 847 00:39:37,349 --> 00:39:35,760 some ancient myths depict 848 00:39:39,670 --> 00:39:37,359 a character 849 00:39:43,910 --> 00:39:39,680 skipping forward in time 850 00:39:47,190 --> 00:39:43,920 some some go back in hindu mythology 851 00:39:49,349 --> 00:39:47,200 the vishnu piranha mentions the story of 852 00:39:52,230 --> 00:39:49,359 king kak moody 853 00:39:54,790 --> 00:39:52,240 who travels to heaven 854 00:39:56,550 --> 00:39:54,800 to meet the creator of brahma and is 855 00:39:57,589 --> 00:39:56,560 surprised to learn that when he returns 856 00:40:00,950 --> 00:39:57,599 to earth 857 00:40:02,790 --> 00:40:00,960 that many ages have passed 858 00:40:06,470 --> 00:40:02,800 the buddhist canon 859 00:40:09,829 --> 00:40:06,480 mentions the relativity of time 860 00:40:12,790 --> 00:40:09,839 the the payasi suda tells one of the 861 00:40:14,550 --> 00:40:12,800 buddha's chief disciples his name is 862 00:40:17,829 --> 00:40:14,560 kumara kasapa 863 00:40:18,630 --> 00:40:17,839 who explains to the skeptic paiosi 864 00:40:20,870 --> 00:40:18,640 that 865 00:40:22,870 --> 00:40:20,880 time in the heavens 866 00:40:25,109 --> 00:40:22,880 passes differently 867 00:40:27,349 --> 00:40:25,119 than on earth 868 00:40:32,870 --> 00:40:27,359 then we have the japanese tale 869 00:40:36,550 --> 00:40:34,710 and that right there is time travel 870 00:40:38,630 --> 00:40:36,560 that's the universe reaching out to me 871 00:40:40,790 --> 00:40:38,640 going this is important 872 00:40:42,790 --> 00:40:40,800 now you must sneeze 873 00:40:43,829 --> 00:40:42,800 stay focused 874 00:40:47,030 --> 00:40:43,839 now 875 00:40:48,230 --> 00:40:47,040 the rashima tara which tells of a young 876 00:40:50,470 --> 00:40:48,240 fisherman 877 00:40:52,630 --> 00:40:50,480 who visits an undersea palace i've 878 00:40:55,750 --> 00:40:52,640 discussed this before in the show 879 00:40:59,430 --> 00:40:55,760 after three days he returns to his home 880 00:41:00,790 --> 00:40:59,440 village and finds himself 300 years in 881 00:41:03,430 --> 00:41:00,800 the future 882 00:41:05,829 --> 00:41:03,440 where he has been forgotten 883 00:41:08,069 --> 00:41:05,839 another sneeze is coming 884 00:41:11,030 --> 00:41:08,079 his house is in ruins 885 00:41:14,710 --> 00:41:11,040 his family has died 886 00:41:17,270 --> 00:41:14,720 in the jewish tradition a 1st century bc 887 00:41:19,510 --> 00:41:17,280 scholar 100 bc 888 00:41:22,710 --> 00:41:19,520 is said to have fallen asleep and slept 889 00:41:24,470 --> 00:41:22,720 for 70 years when waking up he returned 890 00:41:26,069 --> 00:41:24,480 home but found 891 00:41:29,030 --> 00:41:26,079 none of the people that he knew that he 892 00:41:30,230 --> 00:41:29,040 grew up with and no one believed his 893 00:41:32,790 --> 00:41:30,240 claims 894 00:41:36,150 --> 00:41:32,800 of who he was 895 00:41:37,990 --> 00:41:36,160 now today there are hundreds of versions 896 00:41:40,309 --> 00:41:38,000 of time travel 897 00:41:41,270 --> 00:41:40,319 but we can break everything down pretty 898 00:41:45,430 --> 00:41:41,280 much 899 00:41:47,990 --> 00:41:45,440 into three basic themes we have first 900 00:41:51,750 --> 00:41:48,000 you know the time traveler who takes 901 00:41:53,030 --> 00:41:51,760 hold of a special device or steps into a 902 00:41:55,430 --> 00:41:53,040 machine 903 00:41:58,870 --> 00:41:55,440 and suddenly disappears 904 00:42:01,670 --> 00:41:58,880 then appears at an earlier or later time 905 00:42:03,430 --> 00:42:01,680 the time traveler experiences no lapse 906 00:42:04,630 --> 00:42:03,440 of time between the departure and the 907 00:42:06,750 --> 00:42:04,640 arrival 908 00:42:08,870 --> 00:42:06,760 from their point of view they 909 00:42:11,589 --> 00:42:08,880 instantaneously appear 910 00:42:12,790 --> 00:42:11,599 at the destination time so that's kind 911 00:42:14,390 --> 00:42:12,800 of like 912 00:42:16,790 --> 00:42:14,400 the first version 913 00:42:19,990 --> 00:42:16,800 and i've compiled you know 50 versions 914 00:42:21,589 --> 00:42:20,000 of time travel into that but you get you 915 00:42:24,150 --> 00:42:21,599 get what i'm saying 916 00:42:27,270 --> 00:42:24,160 and then we have the time traveler who 917 00:42:28,870 --> 00:42:27,280 steps into an ordinary rocket ship 918 00:42:31,270 --> 00:42:28,880 flies off 919 00:42:32,390 --> 00:42:31,280 you know on a course takes off in a 920 00:42:35,190 --> 00:42:32,400 direction 921 00:42:37,589 --> 00:42:35,200 and at no point do they disappear they 922 00:42:39,270 --> 00:42:37,599 don't disappear they're always there yet 923 00:42:41,910 --> 00:42:39,280 thanks to the overall structure of 924 00:42:44,470 --> 00:42:41,920 space-time as as conceived in the 925 00:42:47,349 --> 00:42:44,480 general theory of relativity the 926 00:42:48,870 --> 00:42:47,359 traveler arrives at a point in the past 927 00:42:51,589 --> 00:42:48,880 or the future 928 00:42:53,670 --> 00:42:51,599 somewhere out there in space right okay 929 00:42:55,750 --> 00:42:53,680 then we have 930 00:42:57,750 --> 00:42:55,760 einstein 931 00:42:59,589 --> 00:42:57,760 where the time traveler steps into 932 00:43:01,270 --> 00:42:59,599 another ordinary 933 00:43:03,030 --> 00:43:01,280 rocket 934 00:43:05,750 --> 00:43:03,040 right some kind of 935 00:43:07,670 --> 00:43:05,760 interstellar spacecraft flies off at 936 00:43:08,710 --> 00:43:07,680 high speed trying to get to the speed of 937 00:43:11,910 --> 00:43:08,720 light 938 00:43:14,630 --> 00:43:11,920 right on a round trip when they return 939 00:43:16,790 --> 00:43:14,640 back to earth thanks to certain you know 940 00:43:18,309 --> 00:43:16,800 effects predicted in special theory of 941 00:43:21,990 --> 00:43:18,319 relativity 942 00:43:24,069 --> 00:43:22,000 only a small amount of time has elapsed 943 00:43:24,950 --> 00:43:24,079 on the spaceship 944 00:43:28,630 --> 00:43:24,960 right 945 00:43:30,630 --> 00:43:28,640 for them but they get back here 946 00:43:32,069 --> 00:43:30,640 you know they've only aged a few months 947 00:43:34,309 --> 00:43:32,079 but 948 00:43:37,430 --> 00:43:34,319 hundreds of years maybe thousands of 949 00:43:39,349 --> 00:43:37,440 years have passed here on earth 950 00:43:41,109 --> 00:43:39,359 since their time of departure and 951 00:43:42,790 --> 00:43:41,119 everything has changed 952 00:43:45,430 --> 00:43:42,800 everybody has died 953 00:43:48,550 --> 00:43:45,440 and that's another aspect to time travel 954 00:43:51,349 --> 00:43:48,560 you know do you really want to 955 00:43:54,390 --> 00:43:51,359 do something like that knowing it's a 956 00:43:56,550 --> 00:43:54,400 one-way trip that when you return your 957 00:43:57,670 --> 00:43:56,560 friends your family everything that you 958 00:43:59,190 --> 00:43:57,680 knew 959 00:44:01,030 --> 00:43:59,200 they're all dead 960 00:44:02,710 --> 00:44:01,040 they're gone 961 00:44:04,950 --> 00:44:02,720 you know and it's it's like taking a 962 00:44:07,589 --> 00:44:04,960 one-way trip to mars are you willing to 963 00:44:10,630 --> 00:44:07,599 do that that's an aspect of time travel 964 00:44:14,230 --> 00:44:10,640 that isn't discussed much but there's an 965 00:44:17,829 --> 00:44:14,240 entire philosophical side to time travel 966 00:44:20,710 --> 00:44:17,839 that we will also get into tonight now 967 00:44:23,030 --> 00:44:20,720 early science fiction stories which 968 00:44:24,230 --> 00:44:23,040 which kind of came next you know after 969 00:44:26,390 --> 00:44:24,240 all of the 970 00:44:29,910 --> 00:44:26,400 the deep religious writings from 971 00:44:31,589 --> 00:44:29,920 thousands of uh years ago 972 00:44:34,069 --> 00:44:31,599 you have these science fiction stories 973 00:44:35,670 --> 00:44:34,079 that started to surface featuring 974 00:44:38,390 --> 00:44:35,680 characters who 975 00:44:41,270 --> 00:44:38,400 who sleep for years and awaken in a 976 00:44:43,829 --> 00:44:41,280 changed society or transported to the 977 00:44:46,630 --> 00:44:43,839 past through supernatural means 978 00:44:48,630 --> 00:44:46,640 among them were different books like the 979 00:44:51,109 --> 00:44:48,640 year 2440 980 00:44:52,630 --> 00:44:51,119 a dream if ever there was one but that 981 00:44:53,950 --> 00:44:52,640 was published 982 00:44:57,109 --> 00:44:53,960 in 983 00:44:59,589 --> 00:44:57,119 1770 by mercier 984 00:45:04,069 --> 00:44:59,599 then you have rip van winkle right that 985 00:45:06,150 --> 00:45:04,079 was written in 1819 by washington irving 986 00:45:09,670 --> 00:45:06,160 and you've got looking backward 987 00:45:13,589 --> 00:45:09,680 published in 1888 by edward bellamy all 988 00:45:15,109 --> 00:45:13,599 of these fantastic time travel books 989 00:45:16,550 --> 00:45:15,119 but then 990 00:45:19,829 --> 00:45:16,560 for me 991 00:45:22,069 --> 00:45:19,839 it starts with the time machine 992 00:45:27,670 --> 00:45:22,079 h.g wells 993 00:45:32,950 --> 00:45:31,190 absolutely incredible 1895. 994 00:45:36,230 --> 00:45:32,960 and we have 995 00:45:39,990 --> 00:45:36,240 the time machine as depicted in the book 996 00:45:42,230 --> 00:45:40,000 uh this is from uh the movie in 1960 997 00:45:43,990 --> 00:45:42,240 um and many models of this you can go 998 00:45:46,309 --> 00:45:44,000 out and build your own model i haven't 999 00:45:48,550 --> 00:45:46,319 done it yet but but i think i'm heading 1000 00:45:51,349 --> 00:45:48,560 in that direction here pretty soon 1001 00:45:53,430 --> 00:45:51,359 um where you've got a couple of levers 1002 00:45:54,790 --> 00:45:53,440 right you're pulling it down you choose 1003 00:45:57,750 --> 00:45:54,800 your date 1004 00:45:59,589 --> 00:45:57,760 right that magnetic wheel thing in the 1005 00:46:00,790 --> 00:45:59,599 background starts spinning and the next 1006 00:46:03,829 --> 00:46:00,800 thing you know 1007 00:46:05,349 --> 00:46:03,839 you've gone back in time or in to the 1008 00:46:08,390 --> 00:46:05,359 distant future 1009 00:46:09,510 --> 00:46:08,400 hg wells change things but let's let's 1010 00:46:13,270 --> 00:46:09,520 remember 1011 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:17,589 and then of course we have 1012 00:46:22,870 --> 00:46:19,910 mark twain 1013 00:46:26,390 --> 00:46:22,880 that's right a connecticut yankee 1014 00:46:29,670 --> 00:46:26,400 in king arthur's court that was written 1015 00:46:33,430 --> 00:46:29,680 in 1888 1016 00:46:35,910 --> 00:46:33,440 both of these books at that time 1017 00:46:38,550 --> 00:46:35,920 caused people to think 1018 00:46:40,550 --> 00:46:38,560 and and really we were in the middle of 1019 00:46:42,150 --> 00:46:40,560 a technical revolution 1020 00:46:44,790 --> 00:46:42,160 um we were in the middle of the 1021 00:46:48,150 --> 00:46:44,800 industrial age electricity was 1022 00:46:51,349 --> 00:46:48,160 was here we had the telegraph 1023 00:46:54,710 --> 00:46:51,359 um we had thomas edison and and the 1024 00:46:57,109 --> 00:46:54,720 telephone and and and graham bell and 1025 00:46:59,430 --> 00:46:57,119 and the recording of the voice for the 1026 00:47:02,309 --> 00:46:59,440 first time all of this was going down 1027 00:47:04,710 --> 00:47:02,319 and the introduction of things like this 1028 00:47:07,430 --> 00:47:04,720 where time travel was possible 1029 00:47:09,109 --> 00:47:07,440 uh really caused people to think 1030 00:47:11,829 --> 00:47:09,119 but this wasn't 1031 00:47:13,750 --> 00:47:11,839 this wasn't where it started 1032 00:47:16,630 --> 00:47:13,760 started with 1033 00:47:21,670 --> 00:47:18,470 plato 1034 00:47:24,630 --> 00:47:21,680 around 400 bc 1035 00:47:26,470 --> 00:47:24,640 plato wrote about societies 1036 00:47:28,950 --> 00:47:26,480 whose time 1037 00:47:31,030 --> 00:47:28,960 ran backwards 1038 00:47:33,670 --> 00:47:31,040 now i want you to think about this for a 1039 00:47:37,589 --> 00:47:33,680 second 400 bc 1040 00:47:40,470 --> 00:47:37,599 plato a historian and a philosopher 1041 00:47:42,549 --> 00:47:40,480 wrote about his experiences and what he 1042 00:47:45,910 --> 00:47:42,559 had learned 1043 00:47:46,950 --> 00:47:45,920 from societies whose time 1044 00:47:49,030 --> 00:47:46,960 ran 1045 00:47:51,510 --> 00:47:49,040 backwards 1046 00:47:53,349 --> 00:47:51,520 it didn't run 1047 00:47:55,030 --> 00:47:53,359 forwards 1048 00:47:58,150 --> 00:47:55,040 i want you to think about that for a 1049 00:48:00,230 --> 00:47:58,160 second it is such a deep concept and as 1050 00:48:02,950 --> 00:48:00,240 you jump down this rabbit hole of 1051 00:48:06,309 --> 00:48:02,960 research you find that plato 1052 00:48:09,430 --> 00:48:06,319 wasn't the only one who wrote about this 1053 00:48:12,069 --> 00:48:09,440 and the concept of living in a world 1054 00:48:15,109 --> 00:48:12,079 where time runs backwards 1055 00:48:17,030 --> 00:48:15,119 is a heavy thought and we apply it today 1056 00:48:18,829 --> 00:48:17,040 with the way that we think 1057 00:48:22,150 --> 00:48:18,839 and with time 1058 00:48:24,309 --> 00:48:22,160 uh change things if it ran backwards 1059 00:48:26,069 --> 00:48:24,319 do we grow younger 1060 00:48:27,750 --> 00:48:26,079 no 1061 00:48:30,470 --> 00:48:27,760 you grow older 1062 00:48:32,549 --> 00:48:30,480 but the days run in reverse 1063 00:48:36,829 --> 00:48:32,559 think about that 1064 00:48:39,910 --> 00:48:36,839 it's absolutely crazy and that was 1065 00:48:41,750 --> 00:48:39,920 2500 years ago 1066 00:48:46,470 --> 00:48:41,760 now 1067 00:48:48,470 --> 00:48:46,480 when we when we discuss this 1068 00:48:51,510 --> 00:48:48,480 what evidence do we have 1069 00:48:54,309 --> 00:48:51,520 about time travelers 1070 00:48:56,309 --> 00:48:54,319 it's a it's a very strange world that's 1071 00:48:59,829 --> 00:48:56,319 going on out there 1072 00:49:02,390 --> 00:48:59,839 and if uh you examine some of these 1073 00:49:03,990 --> 00:49:02,400 images that i'm about to uh present to 1074 00:49:05,030 --> 00:49:04,000 you and and one of them for the first 1075 00:49:08,069 --> 00:49:05,040 time 1076 00:49:09,990 --> 00:49:08,079 um let's take a look at this 1077 00:49:12,230 --> 00:49:10,000 this is a time traveler that might have 1078 00:49:16,230 --> 00:49:12,240 been caught on film 1079 00:49:19,109 --> 00:49:16,240 this was a 1928 charlie chaplin film 1080 00:49:22,470 --> 00:49:19,119 apparently shows a woman 1081 00:49:25,910 --> 00:49:22,480 using a cell phone 1082 00:49:32,470 --> 00:49:29,589 this is taken in the 1930s 1083 00:49:33,510 --> 00:49:32,480 this gentleman is completely out of 1084 00:49:36,950 --> 00:49:33,520 place 1085 00:49:40,069 --> 00:49:36,960 with everybody else that is there 1086 00:49:43,349 --> 00:49:40,079 he's got a t-shirt with a logo on it 1087 00:49:46,230 --> 00:49:43,359 he's got wrap-around sunglasses he's got 1088 00:49:47,750 --> 00:49:46,240 a modern haircut 1089 00:49:50,150 --> 00:49:47,760 he's got a little 1090 00:49:54,309 --> 00:49:50,160 a little a little growth 1091 00:49:56,309 --> 00:49:54,319 of a beard and it appears 1092 00:49:58,390 --> 00:49:56,319 that he's got some kind of device in his 1093 00:50:00,950 --> 00:49:58,400 hand 1094 00:50:03,190 --> 00:50:00,960 now some say it's a camera some say that 1095 00:50:06,230 --> 00:50:03,200 these these glasses were typical of the 1096 00:50:07,990 --> 00:50:06,240 day some even say they wore logo shirts 1097 00:50:10,630 --> 00:50:08,000 in the 1930s 1098 00:50:14,710 --> 00:50:10,640 well i never saw any of it and this 1099 00:50:16,230 --> 00:50:14,720 image is certainly an interesting one 1100 00:50:19,990 --> 00:50:16,240 next 1101 00:50:24,470 --> 00:50:21,910 is mine 1102 00:50:25,670 --> 00:50:24,480 this photograph was sent to me from a 1103 00:50:26,950 --> 00:50:25,680 friend of mine that i went to high 1104 00:50:30,230 --> 00:50:26,960 school with 1105 00:50:32,150 --> 00:50:30,240 um i've never published it uh before 1106 00:50:36,069 --> 00:50:32,160 i've had it for 1107 00:50:37,030 --> 00:50:36,079 for probably six or seven years 1108 00:50:38,829 --> 00:50:37,040 and 1109 00:50:42,630 --> 00:50:38,839 this friend her name is 1110 00:50:44,790 --> 00:50:42,640 julie who i recently saw in indianapolis 1111 00:50:46,710 --> 00:50:44,800 and we talked about this photograph 1112 00:50:49,510 --> 00:50:46,720 she sent this to me she goes jimmy i'm 1113 00:50:52,549 --> 00:50:49,520 going through our family albums 1114 00:50:55,270 --> 00:50:52,559 and i found this 1115 00:50:57,430 --> 00:50:55,280 it's my sister 1116 00:51:00,230 --> 00:50:57,440 using a cell phone 1117 00:51:02,270 --> 00:51:00,240 in the 1970s 1118 00:51:05,109 --> 00:51:02,280 and now 1119 00:51:06,470 --> 00:51:05,119 obviously right 1120 00:51:09,030 --> 00:51:06,480 i don't know 1121 00:51:10,790 --> 00:51:09,040 it's just an interesting photograph and 1122 00:51:12,710 --> 00:51:10,800 this was taken 1123 00:51:16,069 --> 00:51:12,720 by a friend of mine 1124 00:51:17,910 --> 00:51:16,079 and i i go back i've i've i 1125 00:51:19,510 --> 00:51:17,920 i've had this photograph as a 1126 00:51:21,829 --> 00:51:19,520 screensaver 1127 00:51:22,870 --> 00:51:21,839 i constantly go back that's her mom 1128 00:51:24,950 --> 00:51:22,880 sitting there 1129 00:51:26,710 --> 00:51:24,960 um i constantly go back and look at this 1130 00:51:29,349 --> 00:51:26,720 and think to myself what 1131 00:51:30,390 --> 00:51:29,359 what is going on in this picture 1132 00:51:33,270 --> 00:51:30,400 now 1133 00:51:35,510 --> 00:51:33,280 uh does she remember a cell phone in the 1134 00:51:38,549 --> 00:51:35,520 family no alternative 1135 00:51:41,030 --> 00:51:38,559 uh an alternate timeline maybe some kind 1136 00:51:43,349 --> 00:51:41,040 of mandela effect possibly 1137 00:51:46,309 --> 00:51:43,359 but the photograph itself 1138 00:51:48,870 --> 00:51:46,319 is an interesting one 1139 00:51:51,270 --> 00:51:48,880 let's go here 1140 00:51:55,589 --> 00:51:51,280 in this image 1141 00:51:58,950 --> 00:51:55,599 uh this was taken in uh around 1890 to 1142 00:52:01,910 --> 00:51:58,960 1900 this is a group of miners 1143 00:52:03,670 --> 00:52:01,920 and what is interesting here 1144 00:52:05,349 --> 00:52:03,680 is the gentleman 1145 00:52:07,829 --> 00:52:05,359 that is sitting 1146 00:52:09,670 --> 00:52:07,839 in the lower left-hand corner now when 1147 00:52:12,549 --> 00:52:09,680 you look at the way that everybody else 1148 00:52:14,309 --> 00:52:12,559 is dressed here everybody is dressed 1149 00:52:16,710 --> 00:52:14,319 identical 1150 00:52:18,630 --> 00:52:16,720 except for 1151 00:52:21,510 --> 00:52:18,640 this dude 1152 00:52:23,349 --> 00:52:21,520 he's got a t-shirt shorts 1153 00:52:24,950 --> 00:52:23,359 modern haircut 1154 00:52:27,109 --> 00:52:24,960 and look at the guy next to him 1155 00:52:29,349 --> 00:52:27,119 everybody else is wearing a hat let's go 1156 00:52:31,430 --> 00:52:29,359 back to the previous photograph 1157 00:52:34,150 --> 00:52:31,440 and you can see him sitting on the rock 1158 00:52:36,470 --> 00:52:34,160 in the lower left hand corner 1159 00:52:39,030 --> 00:52:36,480 everybody looks the same 1160 00:52:41,910 --> 00:52:39,040 except for this guy 1161 00:52:44,150 --> 00:52:41,920 evidence of a time traveler 1162 00:52:45,589 --> 00:52:44,160 you know possibly 1163 00:52:48,630 --> 00:52:45,599 maybe 1164 00:52:51,510 --> 00:52:48,640 but it's an interesting photograph 1165 00:52:55,430 --> 00:52:51,520 here's a picture that was given 1166 00:52:57,829 --> 00:52:55,440 uh to all of us from andrew bashago 1167 00:52:59,670 --> 00:52:57,839 uh andrew you know the the famous time 1168 00:53:01,589 --> 00:52:59,680 traveler that is part of our community 1169 00:53:02,790 --> 00:53:01,599 and i've done a couple of tv shows with 1170 00:53:05,030 --> 00:53:02,800 him and 1171 00:53:07,829 --> 00:53:05,040 and uh and other things he's been on 1172 00:53:10,230 --> 00:53:07,839 fade to black many times and he tells of 1173 00:53:12,309 --> 00:53:10,240 this photograph this is the gettysburg 1174 00:53:15,430 --> 00:53:12,319 address 1175 00:53:17,030 --> 00:53:15,440 with uh president abraham lincoln and 1176 00:53:20,390 --> 00:53:17,040 andrew says 1177 00:53:23,270 --> 00:53:20,400 that that is a picture of him 1178 00:53:25,349 --> 00:53:23,280 at the age of five 1179 00:53:27,190 --> 00:53:25,359 at the gettysburg address 1180 00:53:28,950 --> 00:53:27,200 and he goes on to say that when he 1181 00:53:32,069 --> 00:53:28,960 transported back 1182 00:53:34,870 --> 00:53:32,079 that he didn't have any shoes 1183 00:53:37,349 --> 00:53:34,880 and that he was wearing a pair of 1184 00:53:39,349 --> 00:53:37,359 oversized boots 1185 00:53:40,950 --> 00:53:39,359 and he describes how he got his clothes 1186 00:53:43,430 --> 00:53:40,960 and everything else 1187 00:53:46,230 --> 00:53:43,440 for this photograph to be taken he says 1188 00:53:49,069 --> 00:53:46,240 he remembers the photograph being taken 1189 00:53:52,069 --> 00:53:49,079 um nonetheless there could be a simple 1190 00:53:53,270 --> 00:53:52,079 explanation uh to this image 1191 00:53:55,510 --> 00:53:53,280 but uh 1192 00:53:59,109 --> 00:53:55,520 this was first presented to me 1193 00:54:01,670 --> 00:53:59,119 by andrew michigan and it is 1194 00:54:05,349 --> 00:54:01,680 it's a cool photograph anyway 1195 00:54:09,589 --> 00:54:07,030 there there is 1196 00:54:11,349 --> 00:54:09,599 uh a few photographs that i'm going to 1197 00:54:13,349 --> 00:54:11,359 show including the one that i showed you 1198 00:54:16,390 --> 00:54:13,359 for my friend julie uh that i went to 1199 00:54:19,030 --> 00:54:16,400 school with who's married to my uh 1200 00:54:21,670 --> 00:54:19,040 former roommate and best friend bruce 1201 00:54:24,790 --> 00:54:21,680 i've known julie for a long long time um 1202 00:54:26,470 --> 00:54:24,800 a lot of pictures of people in the past 1203 00:54:29,030 --> 00:54:26,480 you know like the charlie chaplin film 1204 00:54:31,990 --> 00:54:29,040 that appear to be on a cell phone 1205 00:54:33,910 --> 00:54:32,000 and here is a picture from the early 1206 00:54:35,430 --> 00:54:33,920 1950s 1207 00:54:36,950 --> 00:54:35,440 of some ladies 1208 00:54:39,270 --> 00:54:36,960 crossing a street 1209 00:54:41,829 --> 00:54:39,280 and here you see 1210 00:54:44,470 --> 00:54:41,839 somebody texting 1211 00:54:46,789 --> 00:54:44,480 now i don't know what maybe it's a 1212 00:54:49,589 --> 00:54:46,799 compact maybe it's a mirror maybe she's 1213 00:54:51,510 --> 00:54:49,599 looking i i don't know 1214 00:54:53,510 --> 00:54:51,520 but i see 1215 00:54:56,630 --> 00:54:53,520 somebody texting 1216 00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,670 next 1217 00:55:04,630 --> 00:55:02,150 if there isn't an out of place person in 1218 00:55:07,910 --> 00:55:04,640 a photograph uh 1219 00:55:13,270 --> 00:55:10,150 look at this 1220 00:55:16,309 --> 00:55:14,630 and 1221 00:55:18,390 --> 00:55:16,319 that picture 1222 00:55:21,030 --> 00:55:18,400 aside from the people in the background 1223 00:55:24,309 --> 00:55:21,040 but the woman in this picture this 1224 00:55:26,390 --> 00:55:24,319 picture could have been taken yesterday 1225 00:55:28,150 --> 00:55:26,400 look at her outfit 1226 00:55:31,190 --> 00:55:28,160 now if somebody was walking around like 1227 00:55:33,190 --> 00:55:31,200 that in 1960 dressed in public okay i 1228 00:55:36,630 --> 00:55:33,200 i've never seen it 1229 00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,589 next 1230 00:55:46,549 --> 00:55:42,470 his picture is from a movie 1231 00:55:51,990 --> 00:55:48,470 that's right 1232 00:55:54,309 --> 00:55:52,000 i'm not saying it's a cell phone 1233 00:55:58,309 --> 00:55:54,319 but that looks like an iphone 6. i'm 1234 00:56:03,510 --> 00:56:00,150 this picture here you need to take a 1235 00:56:06,309 --> 00:56:03,520 really close look all right 1236 00:56:09,030 --> 00:56:06,319 right after world war ii you can see the 1237 00:56:12,549 --> 00:56:09,040 the group of military men 1238 00:56:14,870 --> 00:56:12,559 but that gentleman in the background 1239 00:56:16,710 --> 00:56:14,880 is talking on a cell phone 1240 00:56:19,829 --> 00:56:16,720 he is literally 1241 00:56:26,309 --> 00:56:21,510 what's up 1242 00:56:33,670 --> 00:56:30,390 i'm gonna save the best for last 1243 00:56:37,030 --> 00:56:33,680 early 1900s 1244 00:56:42,069 --> 00:56:39,910 donald trump is a time traveler 1245 00:56:45,190 --> 00:56:42,079 but that image 1246 00:56:49,750 --> 00:56:45,200 is not photoshopped 1247 00:56:53,990 --> 00:56:49,760 that is a family portrait taken in 1900 1248 00:56:58,870 --> 00:56:57,109 i have i have looked at uh 1249 00:57:01,750 --> 00:56:58,880 i've looked at this photograph so many 1250 00:57:06,710 --> 00:57:01,760 times and i just can't uh 1251 00:57:10,829 --> 00:57:08,470 it's uh 1252 00:57:14,630 --> 00:57:10,839 it's a strange strange 1253 00:57:16,870 --> 00:57:14,640 photograph now here's the thing 1254 00:57:18,069 --> 00:57:16,880 we can look at these i've got 1255 00:57:20,470 --> 00:57:18,079 i've got 1256 00:57:22,549 --> 00:57:20,480 dozens and dozens of photographs like 1257 00:57:25,510 --> 00:57:22,559 this that are completely out of place 1258 00:57:27,589 --> 00:57:25,520 many send them to me i research and i 1259 00:57:28,950 --> 00:57:27,599 at times i'm just looking at stuff and i 1260 00:57:30,710 --> 00:57:28,960 see stuff 1261 00:57:33,510 --> 00:57:30,720 and i save it 1262 00:57:37,670 --> 00:57:33,520 and uh yeah trump's uncle john was 1263 00:57:40,230 --> 00:57:37,680 tesla's assistant no he was uh 1264 00:57:43,430 --> 00:57:40,240 he was uh he was an engineer that was 1265 00:57:44,390 --> 00:57:43,440 sent in to get tesla's stuff after tesla 1266 00:57:46,789 --> 00:57:44,400 died 1267 00:57:48,150 --> 00:57:46,799 and uh that but that is a fact that 1268 00:57:51,510 --> 00:57:48,160 actually happened 1269 00:57:53,990 --> 00:57:51,520 so we can go and and look at all of this 1270 00:57:56,309 --> 00:57:54,000 and look at these images and i encourage 1271 00:57:58,150 --> 00:57:56,319 all of you to not only look at these 1272 00:58:00,470 --> 00:57:58,160 images here that i have sent you but to 1273 00:58:01,990 --> 00:58:00,480 look at other historical stuff and and 1274 00:58:04,390 --> 00:58:02,000 see what you see in the background just 1275 00:58:06,630 --> 00:58:04,400 take a close look if you find anything 1276 00:58:08,630 --> 00:58:06,640 interesting send it to me i would love 1277 00:58:10,309 --> 00:58:08,640 to see and if you 1278 00:58:12,870 --> 00:58:10,319 um have other stuff that you have 1279 00:58:15,190 --> 00:58:12,880 collected and seen um over the years 1280 00:58:17,510 --> 00:58:15,200 send it to me all right i will use it on 1281 00:58:20,150 --> 00:58:17,520 a future show and i certainly 1282 00:58:22,470 --> 00:58:20,160 um always want to not only find 1283 00:58:26,470 --> 00:58:22,480 something else out but but add stuff to 1284 00:58:27,670 --> 00:58:26,480 my database and continue my research so 1285 00:58:30,789 --> 00:58:27,680 definitely 1286 00:58:34,069 --> 00:58:30,799 do that when i come back after the break 1287 00:58:36,069 --> 00:58:34,079 i live in los angeles california i'm out 1288 00:58:39,030 --> 00:58:36,079 here in the mojave desert i'm about 40 1289 00:58:41,910 --> 00:58:39,040 miles north of los angeles um but i've 1290 00:58:43,589 --> 00:58:41,920 lived in hollywood lived in burbank 1291 00:58:44,870 --> 00:58:43,599 and uh 1292 00:58:47,589 --> 00:58:44,880 out here 1293 00:58:51,670 --> 00:58:47,599 hollywood is a way of life all right and 1294 00:58:54,309 --> 00:58:51,680 i've seen the trends of filmmaking 1295 00:58:57,109 --> 00:58:54,319 and and what is going on out there 1296 00:58:59,670 --> 00:58:57,119 and and i love to watch movies and i 1297 00:59:03,030 --> 00:58:59,680 love science fiction when i come back 1298 00:59:05,990 --> 00:59:03,040 after the break i am going to give you 1299 00:59:09,270 --> 00:59:06,000 and not in any particular order 1300 00:59:11,670 --> 00:59:09,280 a list of time travel movies 1301 00:59:13,829 --> 00:59:11,680 that i compiled 1302 00:59:15,910 --> 00:59:13,839 off of the top of my head they're not in 1303 00:59:17,270 --> 00:59:15,920 any order 1304 00:59:20,230 --> 00:59:17,280 they're not 1305 00:59:24,549 --> 00:59:20,240 but some of them you may not have seen 1306 00:59:25,829 --> 00:59:24,559 and uh these are endorsed 1307 00:59:28,150 --> 00:59:25,839 by me 1308 00:59:30,710 --> 00:59:28,160 and i'm gonna go through them and why i 1309 00:59:34,950 --> 00:59:30,720 think they are not only cool but some of 1310 00:59:37,829 --> 00:59:34,960 the science behind these motion pictures 1311 00:59:39,829 --> 00:59:37,839 tonight it is the secrets of time travel 1312 00:59:43,109 --> 00:59:39,839 i am your host jimmy church 1313 00:59:45,910 --> 00:59:43,119 we are just getting started i've got 1314 00:59:48,710 --> 00:59:45,920 lots of stuff i got lots of stuff you're 1315 00:59:50,950 --> 00:59:48,720 going to want to watch this 1316 00:59:53,190 --> 00:59:50,960 many many times 1317 00:59:56,150 --> 00:59:53,200 on the game changer and nx networks 1318 00:59:58,309 --> 00:59:56,160 raise hobbs i am your host jimmy church 1319 01:00:01,270 --> 00:59:58,319 this is fade to black i'll be right back 1320 01:00:03,590 --> 01:00:01,280 with more the secrets of time travel 1321 01:00:19,349 --> 01:00:03,600 right after this short break 1322 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01:04:09,440 hey i'm adrienne grenier and i'm ari 1409 01:04:13,829 --> 01:04:11,599 gold we're the honey brothers 1410 01:04:15,430 --> 01:04:13,839 and you're listening to jimmy church a 1411 01:04:17,109 --> 01:04:15,440 revolution 1412 01:04:19,029 --> 01:04:17,119 this is jimmy churchill fade to black 1413 01:04:21,349 --> 01:04:19,039 and you can become an official fate or 1414 01:04:22,309 --> 01:04:21,359 not by just going to our membership 1415 01:04:25,589 --> 01:04:22,319 section 1416 01:04:29,990 --> 01:04:27,670 hello this is serena wright taylor from 1417 01:04:32,390 --> 01:04:30,000 conscious life expo and you're listening 1418 01:04:34,710 --> 01:04:32,400 to fade to black with jimmy church who 1419 01:04:38,309 --> 01:04:34,720 holds the lucky pony record for the best 1420 01:04:40,150 --> 01:04:38,319 astrological chart since 1963. true 1421 01:04:41,829 --> 01:04:40,160 story 1422 01:04:43,510 --> 01:04:41,839 this is micah hanks of the ghrelian 1423 01:04:49,010 --> 01:04:43,520 report and you're listening to jimmy 1424 01:05:07,990 --> 01:05:01,910 [Music] 1425 01:05:10,549 --> 01:05:08,000 welcome back fade to black i am your 1426 01:05:14,470 --> 01:05:10,559 host jimmy church tonight 1427 01:05:18,470 --> 01:05:14,480 time travel the secrets of time travel 1428 01:05:20,390 --> 01:05:18,480 we've got a lot to discuss tonight 1429 01:05:22,390 --> 01:05:20,400 we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna 1430 01:05:23,349 --> 01:05:22,400 we're gonna touch on just about every 1431 01:05:26,069 --> 01:05:23,359 angle 1432 01:05:27,109 --> 01:05:26,079 of of time travel tonight and uh i've 1433 01:05:28,950 --> 01:05:27,119 got a 1434 01:05:30,710 --> 01:05:28,960 really cool segment on john teeter 1435 01:05:34,069 --> 01:05:30,720 coming up too as well 1436 01:05:37,029 --> 01:05:34,079 and now uh like i mentioned right before 1437 01:05:40,710 --> 01:05:37,039 the break i'm in hollywood 1438 01:05:41,829 --> 01:05:40,720 i've loved uh movies uh before i ever 1439 01:05:45,430 --> 01:05:41,839 lived here 1440 01:05:46,789 --> 01:05:45,440 but uh it's really cool um uh being 1441 01:05:48,829 --> 01:05:46,799 around 1442 01:05:50,470 --> 01:05:48,839 you know my neighborhood 1443 01:05:52,950 --> 01:05:50,480 is uh 1444 01:05:56,390 --> 01:05:52,960 hollywood in general los angeles in 1445 01:05:57,670 --> 01:05:56,400 general it's full of actors and 1446 01:06:00,789 --> 01:05:57,680 and 1447 01:06:03,109 --> 01:06:00,799 you have every aspect you have sound you 1448 01:06:05,510 --> 01:06:03,119 have lights you have cameras all of the 1449 01:06:07,270 --> 01:06:05,520 productions catering right 1450 01:06:08,950 --> 01:06:07,280 costume design 1451 01:06:12,150 --> 01:06:08,960 uh staging 1452 01:06:15,510 --> 01:06:12,160 um you have producers and writers and 1453 01:06:18,390 --> 01:06:15,520 and and directors everywhere and it's a 1454 01:06:21,670 --> 01:06:18,400 great subject uh to talk about 1455 01:06:25,109 --> 01:06:21,680 and whatever aspect of it that that you 1456 01:06:28,150 --> 01:06:25,119 enjoy about film happens this is our 1457 01:06:30,630 --> 01:06:28,160 life here in hollywood and i pay a lot 1458 01:06:32,470 --> 01:06:30,640 of attention to films i like the way 1459 01:06:35,670 --> 01:06:32,480 that they're uh 1460 01:06:38,789 --> 01:06:35,680 i pay attention to the cinematography 1461 01:06:40,789 --> 01:06:38,799 how things are framed story flow i'm 1462 01:06:42,870 --> 01:06:40,799 always thinking about the hero's journey 1463 01:06:45,670 --> 01:06:42,880 and how that's applied uh to different 1464 01:06:46,950 --> 01:06:45,680 films love documentaries uh i love 1465 01:06:49,349 --> 01:06:46,960 non-fiction 1466 01:06:52,630 --> 01:06:49,359 uh filmmaking too as well 1467 01:06:55,510 --> 01:06:52,640 and and and and i enjoy it and of course 1468 01:06:57,349 --> 01:06:55,520 i'm i'm always making another film uh 1469 01:06:58,870 --> 01:06:57,359 with a group of friends and another 1470 01:07:02,309 --> 01:06:58,880 great director and 1471 01:07:06,150 --> 01:07:02,319 and and i am able to get into 1472 01:07:08,069 --> 01:07:06,160 filmmaking right well now 1473 01:07:11,670 --> 01:07:08,079 going back 1474 01:07:14,789 --> 01:07:11,680 to the my earliest memories 1475 01:07:17,349 --> 01:07:14,799 and and watching films it seems that 1476 01:07:19,510 --> 01:07:17,359 some of my most favorite films and i 1477 01:07:21,670 --> 01:07:19,520 didn't understand it then 1478 01:07:24,870 --> 01:07:21,680 are about time travel 1479 01:07:27,829 --> 01:07:24,880 and so here is my list and i'm starting 1480 01:07:30,390 --> 01:07:27,839 off uh first obviously 1481 01:07:33,829 --> 01:07:30,400 with with back to the future 1482 01:07:35,750 --> 01:07:33,839 and now i've compiled this list just off 1483 01:07:37,910 --> 01:07:35,760 of the top of my head and 1484 01:07:39,990 --> 01:07:37,920 if i would have gone back and and put 1485 01:07:41,910 --> 01:07:40,000 this in a particular order that would 1486 01:07:44,470 --> 01:07:41,920 have been pretty tough because each one 1487 01:07:48,789 --> 01:07:47,109 is great in its own way but back to the 1488 01:07:51,670 --> 01:07:48,799 future 1489 01:07:54,069 --> 01:07:51,680 you know in 1984 right 1490 01:07:57,109 --> 01:07:54,079 back to the future is unique in that it 1491 01:07:58,549 --> 01:07:57,119 was a three part film series uh you know 1492 01:07:59,349 --> 01:07:58,559 one two and three 1493 01:08:02,390 --> 01:07:59,359 where 1494 01:08:04,390 --> 01:08:02,400 back to the future part three 1495 01:08:07,510 --> 01:08:04,400 may be better 1496 01:08:10,069 --> 01:08:07,520 maybe the best film of the franchise 1497 01:08:13,270 --> 01:08:10,079 um i still go back and and 1498 01:08:15,430 --> 01:08:13,280 you know that you know part one 1499 01:08:16,789 --> 01:08:15,440 uh is as great as it is but then you 1500 01:08:18,550 --> 01:08:16,799 watch two 1501 01:08:20,709 --> 01:08:18,560 and it takes things to another level 1502 01:08:22,950 --> 01:08:20,719 then you get to three well you've got zz 1503 01:08:24,550 --> 01:08:22,960 top but aside from that 1504 01:08:26,390 --> 01:08:24,560 um 1505 01:08:28,070 --> 01:08:26,400 it takes 1506 01:08:30,870 --> 01:08:28,080 the paradox 1507 01:08:33,430 --> 01:08:30,880 ideas which we're gonna go very deep 1508 01:08:36,630 --> 01:08:33,440 into in in a few minutes 1509 01:08:38,470 --> 01:08:36,640 and and applies that in that it may be 1510 01:08:39,990 --> 01:08:38,480 cool to go back in time 1511 01:08:41,990 --> 01:08:40,000 but you're going to mess something up 1512 01:08:44,070 --> 01:08:42,000 something's going to get messed up 1513 01:08:45,910 --> 01:08:44,080 and you've got to go back and fix what 1514 01:08:48,149 --> 01:08:45,920 you already fixed 1515 01:08:51,910 --> 01:08:48,159 and they do that for three films in a 1516 01:08:53,269 --> 01:08:51,920 row and it lays out these scientific 1517 01:08:57,430 --> 01:08:53,279 concepts 1518 01:09:00,709 --> 01:08:57,440 in in a comedy series of films there's a 1519 01:09:03,110 --> 01:09:00,719 lot of heavy science that is applied in 1520 01:09:06,070 --> 01:09:03,120 back to the future one two and three 1521 01:09:08,709 --> 01:09:06,080 um and and all of it those romantic 1522 01:09:12,229 --> 01:09:08,719 ideas that that we talk about but the 1523 01:09:14,070 --> 01:09:12,239 grandfather paradox plays out centrally 1524 01:09:16,789 --> 01:09:14,080 in in all of this 1525 01:09:20,709 --> 01:09:16,799 um now the idea 1526 01:09:22,309 --> 01:09:20,719 of going back to high school 1527 01:09:24,709 --> 01:09:22,319 with your parents 1528 01:09:25,669 --> 01:09:24,719 that's about as cool of a thought as can 1529 01:09:26,630 --> 01:09:25,679 be 1530 01:09:30,630 --> 01:09:26,640 and 1531 01:09:33,910 --> 01:09:30,640 future part one 1532 01:09:38,070 --> 01:09:33,920 is is absolutely tremendous it's very 1533 01:09:39,749 --> 01:09:38,080 smart writing and that's why this 1534 01:09:42,630 --> 01:09:39,759 just popped up 1535 01:09:44,870 --> 01:09:42,640 as my first movie 1536 01:09:46,550 --> 01:09:44,880 next 1537 01:09:49,110 --> 01:09:46,560 the atom project 1538 01:09:51,669 --> 01:09:49,120 and now 1539 01:09:54,709 --> 01:09:51,679 this was just released um i think it was 1540 01:09:57,830 --> 01:09:54,719 netflix uh six months ago 1541 01:10:00,070 --> 01:09:57,840 and when you have a big budget hollywood 1542 01:10:03,350 --> 01:10:00,080 film ryan reynolds 1543 01:10:04,149 --> 01:10:03,360 uh about time travel uh i'm gonna watch 1544 01:10:09,430 --> 01:10:04,159 it 1545 01:10:10,630 --> 01:10:09,440 but what was interesting about this film 1546 01:10:12,709 --> 01:10:10,640 again 1547 01:10:15,270 --> 01:10:12,719 it's ryan reynolds 1548 01:10:18,709 --> 01:10:15,280 and his younger self 1549 01:10:20,950 --> 01:10:18,719 and again if you haven't seen the film 1550 01:10:23,430 --> 01:10:20,960 go and watch it it's very interesting 1551 01:10:25,110 --> 01:10:23,440 and the science behind it is is pretty 1552 01:10:26,950 --> 01:10:25,120 sound 1553 01:10:29,030 --> 01:10:26,960 next 1554 01:10:34,070 --> 01:10:29,040 looper 1555 01:10:37,669 --> 01:10:34,080 comes to time travel films 1556 01:10:41,350 --> 01:10:37,679 um and it's it's different 1557 01:10:43,750 --> 01:10:41,360 um in that again we've got the full uh 1558 01:10:44,470 --> 01:10:43,760 principles of the paradox playing out 1559 01:10:46,470 --> 01:10:44,480 here 1560 01:10:48,310 --> 01:10:46,480 but this this is about 1561 01:10:50,470 --> 01:10:48,320 assassins 1562 01:10:53,830 --> 01:10:50,480 that are sent backwards and forwards in 1563 01:10:57,030 --> 01:10:53,840 time uh to do some dirty work 1564 01:10:58,950 --> 01:10:57,040 um very complex and i think that 1565 01:11:00,790 --> 01:10:58,960 um in the beginning of the film and 1566 01:11:02,310 --> 01:11:00,800 especially when you see it now and if 1567 01:11:04,550 --> 01:11:02,320 you haven't seen it i'm not going to 1568 01:11:06,149 --> 01:11:04,560 spoil anything for you 1569 01:11:08,709 --> 01:11:06,159 but you find out 1570 01:11:11,030 --> 01:11:08,719 pretty quickly 1571 01:11:13,270 --> 01:11:11,040 what the film is is about 1572 01:11:15,910 --> 01:11:13,280 and you see that in the in the uh in the 1573 01:11:16,950 --> 01:11:15,920 diner in in the first scene 1574 01:11:19,910 --> 01:11:16,960 and 1575 01:11:22,790 --> 01:11:19,920 how is this going to play out 1576 01:11:23,990 --> 01:11:22,800 it's a very interesting film uh just 1577 01:11:25,830 --> 01:11:24,000 completely 1578 01:11:29,669 --> 01:11:25,840 about time travel 1579 01:11:33,990 --> 01:11:31,430 it's one of my favorite films on time 1580 01:11:35,030 --> 01:11:34,000 travel it's called primer 1581 01:11:38,830 --> 01:11:35,040 and 1582 01:11:42,630 --> 01:11:38,840 primer is an extremely low 1583 01:11:44,709 --> 01:11:42,640 budget uh independent film 1584 01:11:46,070 --> 01:11:44,719 made by a family 1585 01:11:48,870 --> 01:11:46,080 and 1586 01:11:51,510 --> 01:11:48,880 it uh it discusses 1587 01:11:53,750 --> 01:11:51,520 so many different now it gets heavy into 1588 01:11:55,750 --> 01:11:53,760 the science which is great and for an 1589 01:11:57,750 --> 01:11:55,760 independent film 1590 01:12:02,070 --> 01:11:57,760 that is also amazing 1591 01:12:05,830 --> 01:12:02,080 um the time machine in this film and you 1592 01:12:11,350 --> 01:12:06,830 is a 1593 01:12:14,630 --> 01:12:11,360 whirlpool refrigerator box a cardboard 1594 01:12:16,709 --> 01:12:14,640 refrigerator box with christmas lights 1595 01:12:19,270 --> 01:12:16,719 and it's the central character in the 1596 01:12:20,630 --> 01:12:19,280 film and and now that i've told you that 1597 01:12:22,870 --> 01:12:20,640 when you go and see the film you're 1598 01:12:24,550 --> 01:12:22,880 gonna go yeah that's a refrigerator box 1599 01:12:25,990 --> 01:12:24,560 with christmas lights 1600 01:12:28,149 --> 01:12:26,000 um it's about 1601 01:12:29,669 --> 01:12:28,159 amazing script writing 1602 01:12:33,990 --> 01:12:29,679 great acting 1603 01:12:36,550 --> 01:12:34,000 and made on a an extreme budget i think 1604 01:12:38,390 --> 01:12:36,560 they made the whole film for seven grand 1605 01:12:39,510 --> 01:12:38,400 i could be wrong on that number it might 1606 01:12:41,030 --> 01:12:39,520 have been 1607 01:12:44,470 --> 01:12:41,040 eight grand 1608 01:12:47,030 --> 01:12:44,480 primer is one of the best 1609 01:12:51,030 --> 01:12:47,040 time travel movies that you are ever 1610 01:12:53,830 --> 01:12:51,040 going to watch write that down primer 1611 01:12:56,709 --> 01:12:53,840 next and and this is the time machine 1612 01:12:59,270 --> 01:12:56,719 and i like both versions of this 1613 01:13:03,430 --> 01:12:59,280 the original of course 1960. uh the 1614 01:13:06,550 --> 01:13:03,440 other one came out in the mid 2000s 1615 01:13:10,390 --> 01:13:06,560 both both are great films and 1616 01:13:13,590 --> 01:13:10,400 and i enjoy them for their own reasons 1617 01:13:14,709 --> 01:13:13,600 but uh yeah going to the distant past 1618 01:13:19,430 --> 01:13:14,719 and 1619 01:13:21,750 --> 01:13:19,440 future 1620 01:13:23,590 --> 01:13:21,760 is what the time machine is all about 1621 01:13:24,630 --> 01:13:23,600 great film 1622 01:13:28,149 --> 01:13:24,640 tenant 1623 01:13:29,910 --> 01:13:28,159 christopher nolan's film 1624 01:13:33,030 --> 01:13:29,920 and tenet 1625 01:13:35,270 --> 01:13:33,040 one of the complaints about the film 1626 01:13:36,390 --> 01:13:35,280 was one of the reasons why i enjoyed it 1627 01:13:38,950 --> 01:13:36,400 so much 1628 01:13:41,990 --> 01:13:38,960 is that the film was too technical 1629 01:13:43,110 --> 01:13:42,000 too complex and too deep 1630 01:13:45,990 --> 01:13:43,120 right 1631 01:13:47,510 --> 01:13:46,000 that's the reason why i enjoy tenant it 1632 01:13:50,470 --> 01:13:47,520 made me think 1633 01:13:52,470 --> 01:13:50,480 and and i knew after watching tennant uh 1634 01:13:54,950 --> 01:13:52,480 for the first time i was like well i'm 1635 01:13:56,550 --> 01:13:54,960 gonna watch this tomorrow 1636 01:13:58,390 --> 01:13:56,560 and i'm gonna watch it again later on 1637 01:14:02,149 --> 01:13:58,400 this week i need to understand what's 1638 01:14:04,550 --> 01:14:02,159 going on here it's an incredible film 1639 01:14:07,270 --> 01:14:04,560 tenant christopher nolan christopher 1640 01:14:07,990 --> 01:14:07,280 nolan's uh on my list a few times by the 1641 01:14:12,390 --> 01:14:08,000 way 1642 01:14:18,709 --> 01:14:15,270 the tomorrow war again another netflix 1643 01:14:23,270 --> 01:14:18,719 film and this came out last year 1644 01:14:24,149 --> 01:14:23,280 um about uh an alien invasion and 1645 01:14:35,110 --> 01:14:24,159 uh 1646 01:14:37,350 --> 01:14:35,120 needs to time travel 1647 01:14:40,470 --> 01:14:37,360 to save the world 1648 01:14:42,550 --> 01:14:40,480 again as far as time travel movies go 1649 01:14:44,550 --> 01:14:42,560 this is high up on the list and if you 1650 01:14:46,310 --> 01:14:44,560 haven't seen the tomorrow war 1651 01:14:50,550 --> 01:14:46,320 go and check it out 1652 01:14:51,430 --> 01:14:50,560 of course we have terminator all of them 1653 01:14:53,990 --> 01:14:51,440 and 1654 01:14:58,470 --> 01:14:54,000 uh the first terminator 1655 01:14:59,430 --> 01:14:58,480 uh it's uh a bit more vicious 1656 01:15:04,950 --> 01:14:59,440 than 1657 01:15:07,110 --> 01:15:04,960 the first terminator still up there as 1658 01:15:10,229 --> 01:15:07,120 one of the best time travel movies and 1659 01:15:12,070 --> 01:15:10,239 it's one of the most quoted movies ever 1660 01:15:14,550 --> 01:15:12,080 but for me 1661 01:15:15,830 --> 01:15:14,560 i think terminator 2 1662 01:15:17,350 --> 01:15:15,840 is 1663 01:15:20,229 --> 01:15:17,360 at equal 1664 01:15:22,790 --> 01:15:20,239 to the first terminator there's reasons 1665 01:15:24,630 --> 01:15:22,800 for that there was a big leap in 1666 01:15:26,310 --> 01:15:24,640 technology and the way that the film was 1667 01:15:29,270 --> 01:15:26,320 able to be produced i'm talking about 1668 01:15:33,030 --> 01:15:29,280 terminator 2 judgment day 1669 01:15:35,750 --> 01:15:33,040 and and i really enjoyed that but the 1670 01:15:36,630 --> 01:15:35,760 first two terminator films 1671 01:15:38,790 --> 01:15:36,640 uh 1672 01:15:40,390 --> 01:15:38,800 absolutely some of the best time travel 1673 01:15:43,110 --> 01:15:40,400 movies ever 1674 01:15:44,550 --> 01:15:43,120 next now this movie you probably haven't 1675 01:15:46,790 --> 01:15:44,560 seen 1676 01:15:50,470 --> 01:15:46,800 it's called time trap 1677 01:15:54,149 --> 01:15:50,480 uh again a small independent film 1678 01:15:55,910 --> 01:15:54,159 and one of the best time travel movies 1679 01:15:57,750 --> 01:15:55,920 you are ever going to see it's right up 1680 01:15:59,270 --> 01:15:57,760 there with primer it's right up there 1681 01:16:01,669 --> 01:15:59,280 with back to the future 1682 01:16:03,590 --> 01:16:01,679 time trap is about uh 1683 01:16:05,189 --> 01:16:03,600 some kids in school 1684 01:16:08,630 --> 01:16:05,199 that that go 1685 01:16:11,350 --> 01:16:08,640 spelunking they go camping 1686 01:16:13,590 --> 01:16:11,360 and they get in 1687 01:16:15,830 --> 01:16:13,600 in they get how do i want to i don't 1688 01:16:17,910 --> 01:16:15,840 want to give it away they get stuck in a 1689 01:16:20,550 --> 01:16:17,920 cavern 1690 01:16:24,630 --> 01:16:20,560 that uh when they pull up outside they 1691 01:16:26,790 --> 01:16:24,640 see a like a 1969 vw bus 1692 01:16:29,510 --> 01:16:26,800 with peace signs painted on it but it's 1693 01:16:31,430 --> 01:16:29,520 been there for a while 1694 01:16:33,270 --> 01:16:31,440 and a rope 1695 01:16:35,750 --> 01:16:33,280 that's all i'm going to say 1696 01:16:37,669 --> 01:16:35,760 one of the best one of the as far as 1697 01:16:40,709 --> 01:16:37,679 special effects go especially for an 1698 01:16:42,870 --> 01:16:40,719 independent film this film has it all 1699 01:16:43,830 --> 01:16:42,880 and the 1700 01:16:54,950 --> 01:16:43,840 the 1701 01:16:57,910 --> 01:16:54,960 production you're ever going to see in a 1702 01:16:59,990 --> 01:16:57,920 in a film and this is an independent 1703 01:17:02,070 --> 01:17:00,000 film time trap if you're going to go 1704 01:17:03,350 --> 01:17:02,080 watch a time travel movie after this 1705 01:17:05,669 --> 01:17:03,360 show tonight 1706 01:17:09,110 --> 01:17:05,679 it should be time trap 1707 01:17:12,070 --> 01:17:09,120 well or primer either one but time trap 1708 01:17:13,830 --> 01:17:12,080 is one of the best time travel films you 1709 01:17:16,630 --> 01:17:13,840 will ever see 1710 01:17:18,630 --> 01:17:16,640 next up of course 1711 01:17:19,590 --> 01:17:18,640 the planet of the apes 1712 01:17:23,830 --> 01:17:19,600 and 1713 01:17:26,229 --> 01:17:23,840 planet of the apes 1714 01:17:27,270 --> 01:17:26,239 and uh with charlton heston there he is 1715 01:17:30,310 --> 01:17:27,280 there 1716 01:17:33,510 --> 01:17:30,320 um and and the ending of course uh with 1717 01:17:35,430 --> 01:17:33,520 the statue of liberty and you find out 1718 01:17:39,430 --> 01:17:35,440 in the beginning that something has 1719 01:17:43,510 --> 01:17:39,440 happened with the crew of of apollo 1720 01:17:45,830 --> 01:17:43,520 and something has changed time and they 1721 01:17:47,270 --> 01:17:45,840 arrive back on earth in the distant 1722 01:17:48,310 --> 01:17:47,280 future they think they're on another 1723 01:17:50,870 --> 01:17:48,320 planet 1724 01:17:54,149 --> 01:17:50,880 right and then they find out it's earth 1725 01:17:55,750 --> 01:17:54,159 absolutely incredible movie and i watch 1726 01:17:59,110 --> 01:17:55,760 it all the time 1727 01:18:01,189 --> 01:17:59,120 planet of the apes idiocracy another 1728 01:18:02,149 --> 01:18:01,199 film i quote a lot and i talk about it 1729 01:18:03,510 --> 01:18:02,159 here 1730 01:18:06,390 --> 01:18:03,520 uh 1731 01:18:09,510 --> 01:18:06,400 it's just just one of 1732 01:18:11,430 --> 01:18:09,520 the coolest films super funny 1733 01:18:13,510 --> 01:18:11,440 time travel movie 1734 01:18:14,790 --> 01:18:13,520 and i'm not going to give anything away 1735 01:18:17,110 --> 01:18:14,800 here if you haven't seen it but 1736 01:18:18,709 --> 01:18:17,120 idiocracy is also 1737 01:18:20,149 --> 01:18:18,719 something that needs to be on your list 1738 01:18:21,270 --> 01:18:20,159 if you haven't seen it 1739 01:18:23,270 --> 01:18:21,280 um 1740 01:18:25,510 --> 01:18:23,280 uh the thing is 1741 01:18:30,149 --> 01:18:25,520 it's a 1742 01:18:32,550 --> 01:18:30,159 and uh 1743 01:18:35,110 --> 01:18:32,560 and and 1744 01:18:36,470 --> 01:18:35,120 in a garbage dump i'm gonna leave that 1745 01:18:39,510 --> 01:18:36,480 right there 1746 01:18:43,270 --> 01:18:39,520 one one of the best time travel movies 1747 01:18:45,750 --> 01:18:43,280 and uh also one of the funniest movies 1748 01:18:48,470 --> 01:18:45,760 you will ever see but idiocracy 1749 01:18:49,750 --> 01:18:48,480 it needs to be at the time of at the top 1750 01:18:53,669 --> 01:18:49,760 of your list 1751 01:18:56,229 --> 01:18:53,679 and then next up another classic 1752 01:18:57,750 --> 01:18:56,239 time cop 1753 01:18:59,430 --> 01:18:57,760 i can't tell you 1754 01:19:01,590 --> 01:18:59,440 how many times 1755 01:19:04,070 --> 01:19:01,600 i have seen this movie 1756 01:19:06,070 --> 01:19:04,080 and uh jean-claude van damme 1757 01:19:07,110 --> 01:19:06,080 time cop i'm just gonna leave it right 1758 01:19:11,270 --> 01:19:07,120 there 1759 01:19:13,270 --> 01:19:11,280 one of the best movies uh of of all time 1760 01:19:16,709 --> 01:19:13,280 it just happens 1761 01:19:24,390 --> 01:19:19,590 12 monkeys 1762 01:19:27,189 --> 01:19:24,400 that hasn't already been said 1763 01:19:30,390 --> 01:19:27,199 um i remember the first time that i saw 1764 01:19:32,950 --> 01:19:30,400 12 monkeys and i i literally thought 1765 01:19:34,830 --> 01:19:32,960 it was uh like the best movie i had ever 1766 01:19:38,390 --> 01:19:34,840 seen i put it right up there with the 1767 01:19:40,630 --> 01:19:38,400 godfather it's that great of a film 1768 01:19:43,830 --> 01:19:40,640 um stellar 1769 01:19:45,030 --> 01:19:43,840 career achieving performances 1770 01:19:47,189 --> 01:19:45,040 um 1771 01:19:49,430 --> 01:19:47,199 by the entire cast 1772 01:19:53,270 --> 01:19:49,440 one of the best scripts 1773 01:19:55,910 --> 01:19:53,280 uh one of the most scientific scripts 1774 01:19:57,110 --> 01:19:55,920 put together and remember 1775 01:19:59,430 --> 01:19:57,120 um 1776 01:20:02,149 --> 01:19:59,440 not to give anything away but this is 1777 01:20:05,430 --> 01:20:02,159 the future going back and trying to fix 1778 01:20:06,629 --> 01:20:05,440 the past and the paradoxes that result 1779 01:20:10,229 --> 01:20:06,639 from that 1780 01:20:11,910 --> 01:20:10,239 absolutely incredible film 1781 01:20:18,229 --> 01:20:11,920 got the key 1782 01:20:25,430 --> 01:20:20,629 so well shot too as well 1783 01:20:31,350 --> 01:20:29,110 man 12 monkeys the tv series was pretty 1784 01:20:33,669 --> 01:20:31,360 good um as well 1785 01:20:35,510 --> 01:20:33,679 next up what can i say 1786 01:20:37,669 --> 01:20:35,520 interstellar i'm going to be another 1787 01:20:39,750 --> 01:20:37,679 christopher nolan film going to be 1788 01:20:41,270 --> 01:20:39,760 talking about interstellar a few times 1789 01:20:43,669 --> 01:20:41,280 tonight and the science behind 1790 01:20:46,790 --> 01:20:43,679 interstellar and of course kip thorne 1791 01:20:48,709 --> 01:20:46,800 will be getting into all of that but 1792 01:20:50,790 --> 01:20:48,719 going back to my point that i made 1793 01:20:52,550 --> 01:20:50,800 earlier when it comes to time travel 1794 01:20:54,070 --> 01:20:52,560 one of the things that just isn't 1795 01:20:56,310 --> 01:20:54,080 discussed 1796 01:20:58,229 --> 01:20:56,320 because it bums people out 1797 01:21:00,390 --> 01:20:58,239 is if you go out there farting around 1798 01:21:02,310 --> 01:21:00,400 the universe and 1799 01:21:04,470 --> 01:21:02,320 and messing around with black holes and 1800 01:21:06,149 --> 01:21:04,480 wormholes and speed of light and all of 1801 01:21:07,510 --> 01:21:06,159 that stuff you go out and start doing 1802 01:21:09,590 --> 01:21:07,520 these things 1803 01:21:11,510 --> 01:21:09,600 um you're gonna come back to earth uh to 1804 01:21:12,629 --> 01:21:11,520 a different planet 1805 01:21:16,709 --> 01:21:12,639 and 1806 01:21:20,310 --> 01:21:16,719 for me uh the scene with uh matthew 1807 01:21:22,470 --> 01:21:20,320 mcconaughey you know coming back uh and 1808 01:21:24,470 --> 01:21:22,480 seeing his daughter again who he hasn't 1809 01:21:25,910 --> 01:21:24,480 seen since she was you know whatever 1810 01:21:28,629 --> 01:21:25,920 eight years old 1811 01:21:30,629 --> 01:21:28,639 and and now she's you know 40 years 1812 01:21:33,270 --> 01:21:30,639 older than he is 1813 01:21:35,030 --> 01:21:33,280 and is at the end of her days and he has 1814 01:21:37,030 --> 01:21:35,040 to come in and talk to her i'm getting a 1815 01:21:39,910 --> 01:21:37,040 lump in my throat right now it's one of 1816 01:21:43,510 --> 01:21:39,920 those aspects are you willing 1817 01:21:46,550 --> 01:21:43,520 to give up friends and family 1818 01:21:47,990 --> 01:21:46,560 to go out and and time travel time 1819 01:21:50,790 --> 01:21:48,000 travel is real 1820 01:21:52,629 --> 01:21:50,800 all right the ability to do it is real 1821 01:21:54,950 --> 01:21:52,639 and the way that it's laid out in 1822 01:21:58,350 --> 01:21:54,960 interstellar not only the scientific 1823 01:22:00,390 --> 01:21:58,360 aspects of this but the deep deep 1824 01:22:02,870 --> 01:22:00,400 philosophical questions that are 1825 01:22:05,750 --> 01:22:02,880 presented with time travel 1826 01:22:07,350 --> 01:22:05,760 are in interstellar it's an incredible 1827 01:22:09,350 --> 01:22:07,360 movie 1828 01:22:11,030 --> 01:22:09,360 it's a great story 1829 01:22:12,149 --> 01:22:11,040 when they are at the edge of the black 1830 01:22:13,669 --> 01:22:12,159 hole 1831 01:22:16,149 --> 01:22:13,679 and they come back to their ship and 1832 01:22:19,669 --> 01:22:16,159 they mess up and they're on that planet 1833 01:22:22,070 --> 01:22:19,679 uh for an hour too long and an hour and 1834 01:22:23,110 --> 01:22:22,080 they get back to the ship 21 years have 1835 01:22:25,830 --> 01:22:23,120 passed 1836 01:22:28,149 --> 01:22:25,840 and their crewmate 1837 01:22:30,310 --> 01:22:28,159 has been waiting for them 1838 01:22:31,430 --> 01:22:30,320 for 21 1839 01:22:32,550 --> 01:22:31,440 years 1840 01:22:34,070 --> 01:22:32,560 that's all i'm going to say if you 1841 01:22:35,910 --> 01:22:34,080 haven't seen the movie 1842 01:22:38,629 --> 01:22:35,920 go and check it out but it's these 1843 01:22:41,750 --> 01:22:38,639 philosophical questions that are 1844 01:22:44,790 --> 01:22:41,760 presented so well in interstellar 1845 01:22:48,310 --> 01:22:44,800 next one of the best 1846 01:22:53,750 --> 01:22:51,430 most have seen it by now i was uh 1847 01:22:58,310 --> 01:22:53,760 channel surfing 1848 01:23:00,709 --> 01:22:58,320 1998 1999. it was directv 1849 01:23:03,910 --> 01:23:00,719 and uh i was home alone 1850 01:23:06,229 --> 01:23:03,920 channel surfing donnie darko pops up you 1851 01:23:07,189 --> 01:23:06,239 know you remember those direct tv menus 1852 01:23:09,110 --> 01:23:07,199 and 1853 01:23:11,510 --> 01:23:09,120 i'm sure it's still the same scrolling 1854 01:23:14,310 --> 01:23:11,520 down donnie darko what's that info click 1855 01:23:16,070 --> 01:23:14,320 on that oh okay time travel what what oh 1856 01:23:17,030 --> 01:23:16,080 okay i'm gonna watch this never heard of 1857 01:23:24,390 --> 01:23:17,040 it 1858 01:23:25,270 --> 01:23:24,400 probably around 100 times 1859 01:23:28,070 --> 01:23:25,280 um 1860 01:23:29,750 --> 01:23:28,080 deep heavy fantastic film 1861 01:23:33,270 --> 01:23:29,760 with certainly one of the best musical 1862 01:23:35,830 --> 01:23:33,280 soundtracks in in the history of cinema 1863 01:23:37,110 --> 01:23:35,840 and the church 1864 01:23:38,070 --> 01:23:37,120 um 1865 01:23:39,910 --> 01:23:38,080 yes 1866 01:23:41,910 --> 01:23:39,920 donnie darko 1867 01:23:43,990 --> 01:23:41,920 one of the best one of the best as you 1868 01:23:46,070 --> 01:23:44,000 can see these are not in any particular 1869 01:23:49,110 --> 01:23:46,080 order if i've got donnie darko 1870 01:23:50,229 --> 01:23:49,120 coming in at number 15. 1871 01:23:53,430 --> 01:23:50,239 next 1872 01:23:56,070 --> 01:23:53,440 contact now i watched contact twice in 1873 01:23:58,229 --> 01:23:56,080 the last two weeks i watch it about once 1874 01:24:00,870 --> 01:23:58,239 a month every couple of months 1875 01:24:02,790 --> 01:24:00,880 it's just a fantastic film and i love it 1876 01:24:03,910 --> 01:24:02,800 but the the 1877 01:24:05,750 --> 01:24:03,920 the 1878 01:24:07,350 --> 01:24:05,760 time travel 1879 01:24:10,550 --> 01:24:07,360 part of this 1880 01:24:13,669 --> 01:24:10,560 is not what you may think 1881 01:24:15,669 --> 01:24:13,679 all right now it goes back to wormholes 1882 01:24:17,430 --> 01:24:15,679 and most have seen contact so i'm not 1883 01:24:18,470 --> 01:24:17,440 giving anything away 1884 01:24:20,229 --> 01:24:18,480 um 1885 01:24:22,870 --> 01:24:20,239 in the end 1886 01:24:24,390 --> 01:24:22,880 jodie foster when she 1887 01:24:26,629 --> 01:24:24,400 um 1888 01:24:27,750 --> 01:24:26,639 does her trip 1889 01:24:30,229 --> 01:24:27,760 and 1890 01:24:33,350 --> 01:24:30,239 she's dropped into the device they don't 1891 01:24:35,270 --> 01:24:33,360 know what's going to happen she's gone 1892 01:24:37,189 --> 01:24:35,280 for 18 hours 1893 01:24:39,750 --> 01:24:37,199 in those 18 hours 1894 01:24:41,750 --> 01:24:39,760 she goes to what may be another universe 1895 01:24:43,510 --> 01:24:41,760 certainly was another galaxy travels 1896 01:24:46,229 --> 01:24:43,520 through a wormhole 1897 01:24:48,229 --> 01:24:46,239 has her experience with the aliens then 1898 01:24:50,229 --> 01:24:48,239 comes back and is ready to share 1899 01:24:52,629 --> 01:24:50,239 everything to the world she's 1900 01:24:54,550 --> 01:24:52,639 recorded everything with the camera 1901 01:24:56,870 --> 01:24:54,560 on the side of her head 1902 01:24:59,990 --> 01:24:56,880 she comes back and they tell her 1903 01:25:03,110 --> 01:25:00,000 that the experiment malfunctioned that 1904 01:25:05,750 --> 01:25:03,120 she just fell through and that it that 1905 01:25:07,590 --> 01:25:05,760 was it it was less than a second and she 1906 01:25:10,310 --> 01:25:07,600 says that's impossible 1907 01:25:11,750 --> 01:25:10,320 that's the time travel aspect of this 1908 01:25:14,950 --> 01:25:11,760 right where 1909 01:25:15,910 --> 01:25:14,960 you can go out and come back and 1910 01:25:19,270 --> 01:25:15,920 uh 1911 01:25:21,030 --> 01:25:19,280 um to everybody here 1912 01:25:23,270 --> 01:25:21,040 you never left 1913 01:25:24,950 --> 01:25:23,280 but you were gone for this extended 1914 01:25:27,990 --> 01:25:24,960 period of time 1915 01:25:30,070 --> 01:25:28,000 um contact and and just 1916 01:25:32,149 --> 01:25:30,080 that one scene in the film or that 1917 01:25:34,790 --> 01:25:32,159 series of scenes i should say 1918 01:25:36,550 --> 01:25:34,800 uh that start to explore this is 1919 01:25:39,430 --> 01:25:36,560 absolutely incredible 1920 01:25:42,950 --> 01:25:39,440 now another movie that uh i talk about 1921 01:25:45,669 --> 01:25:42,960 nearly at the same time as contact every 1922 01:25:49,030 --> 01:25:45,679 time that i bring these uh subjects up 1923 01:25:51,750 --> 01:25:49,040 is a rival a rival is a time travel 1924 01:25:54,550 --> 01:25:51,760 movie and you don't understand that and 1925 01:25:55,510 --> 01:25:54,560 don't know that in the beginning 1926 01:25:57,590 --> 01:25:55,520 um 1927 01:25:59,350 --> 01:25:57,600 but uh and again if you haven't seen a 1928 01:26:01,510 --> 01:25:59,360 rival i don't want to give anything too 1929 01:26:03,510 --> 01:26:01,520 much away here but the movie on the 1930 01:26:06,310 --> 01:26:03,520 surface is about communicating with 1931 01:26:07,189 --> 01:26:06,320 aliens right okay and trying to break 1932 01:26:10,229 --> 01:26:07,199 down 1933 01:26:12,709 --> 01:26:10,239 uh that that communication but 1934 01:26:15,830 --> 01:26:12,719 in the end you find out that it's time 1935 01:26:19,590 --> 01:26:15,840 travel movie and that's what e.t had 1936 01:26:22,870 --> 01:26:19,600 brought us a rival next of course bill 1937 01:26:24,870 --> 01:26:22,880 and ted's excellent adventure 1938 01:26:27,510 --> 01:26:24,880 i'm gonna leave that right there 1939 01:26:30,470 --> 01:26:27,520 one of the best 1940 01:26:32,310 --> 01:26:30,480 time travel movies you're ever gonna see 1941 01:26:34,550 --> 01:26:32,320 i wanna get all of these in 1942 01:26:37,110 --> 01:26:34,560 um 1943 01:26:39,830 --> 01:26:37,120 hot tub time machine 1944 01:26:44,149 --> 01:26:42,229 one of the best 1945 01:26:45,669 --> 01:26:44,159 time travel movies 1946 01:26:48,149 --> 01:26:45,679 you're ever going to see 1947 01:26:50,550 --> 01:26:48,159 and again 1948 01:26:53,030 --> 01:26:50,560 it's a comedy and i get that and it's 1949 01:26:55,270 --> 01:26:53,040 really funny and i get that too 1950 01:26:58,470 --> 01:26:55,280 but um in 1951 01:27:00,149 --> 01:26:58,480 in a comedic script in a comedic 1952 01:27:02,149 --> 01:27:00,159 storyline 1953 01:27:04,310 --> 01:27:02,159 the complexities and the problems and 1954 01:27:05,270 --> 01:27:04,320 the issues and the paradoxes of time 1955 01:27:08,870 --> 01:27:05,280 travel 1956 01:27:10,790 --> 01:27:08,880 are brought front and center 1957 01:27:14,709 --> 01:27:10,800 hot tub time machine 1958 01:27:16,950 --> 01:27:14,719 absolutely incredible time travel movie 1959 01:27:20,229 --> 01:27:16,960 and i'm gonna leave you with this 1960 01:27:21,750 --> 01:27:20,239 this is a movie that um i saw 1961 01:27:23,990 --> 01:27:21,760 when i was a kid 1962 01:27:26,870 --> 01:27:24,000 and of course it's it's monty python's 1963 01:27:28,229 --> 01:27:26,880 terry gilliam uh time bandits 1964 01:27:31,750 --> 01:27:28,239 again 1965 01:27:33,830 --> 01:27:31,760 the the attention to detail in this some 1966 01:27:36,310 --> 01:27:33,840 of the science behind it it's a fun 1967 01:27:39,110 --> 01:27:36,320 movie it's a funny movie the special 1968 01:27:41,830 --> 01:27:39,120 effects in it are absolutely incredible 1969 01:27:43,990 --> 01:27:41,840 and what's not to love it's monty python 1970 01:27:45,669 --> 01:27:44,000 and so you get a lot of the familiar 1971 01:27:48,550 --> 01:27:45,679 characters and faces 1972 01:27:49,910 --> 01:27:48,560 that that are really having fun in in 1973 01:27:51,590 --> 01:27:49,920 this movie 1974 01:27:54,149 --> 01:27:51,600 but again 1975 01:27:55,270 --> 01:27:54,159 it's the science behind it and how it's 1976 01:27:57,350 --> 01:27:55,280 laid out 1977 01:28:01,189 --> 01:27:57,360 and if you haven't seen time bandits 1978 01:28:03,030 --> 01:28:01,199 which may be before your time and and 1979 01:28:06,950 --> 01:28:03,040 and i get that 1980 01:28:11,110 --> 01:28:06,960 time bandits needs to be on your list 1981 01:28:14,070 --> 01:28:11,120 and this is just a fraction i didn't get 1982 01:28:16,070 --> 01:28:14,080 to any of some of my favorite films 1983 01:28:17,110 --> 01:28:16,080 about time travel from the 50s and the 1984 01:28:18,870 --> 01:28:17,120 60s 1985 01:28:20,310 --> 01:28:18,880 um that i've talked about on the show 1986 01:28:23,590 --> 01:28:20,320 over the years 1987 01:28:25,669 --> 01:28:23,600 there's too many to just pop down in 1988 01:28:27,830 --> 01:28:25,679 into one list and go through it we have 1989 01:28:30,310 --> 01:28:27,840 too many uh things to talk about tonight 1990 01:28:31,750 --> 01:28:30,320 on the show the reason why i am doing 1991 01:28:34,149 --> 01:28:31,760 this first 1992 01:28:36,149 --> 01:28:34,159 is that all of the concepts of time 1993 01:28:39,030 --> 01:28:36,159 travel that i am going to discuss and 1994 01:28:41,750 --> 01:28:39,040 that i've already covered are in these 1995 01:28:44,390 --> 01:28:41,760 films and so with the basic knowledge of 1996 01:28:47,430 --> 01:28:44,400 time travel and that is paradoxes and 1997 01:28:49,510 --> 01:28:47,440 that is wormholes and black holes and 1998 01:28:51,669 --> 01:28:49,520 speed of light and faster than light all 1999 01:28:54,550 --> 01:28:51,679 of these time machines 2000 01:28:55,750 --> 01:28:54,560 all of these ideas are presented their 2001 01:28:58,470 --> 01:28:55,760 own way 2002 01:29:00,229 --> 01:28:58,480 in these films and there are so many 2003 01:29:02,390 --> 01:29:00,239 different concepts 2004 01:29:03,350 --> 01:29:02,400 of of time travel and how it could 2005 01:29:07,430 --> 01:29:03,360 happen 2006 01:29:10,470 --> 01:29:07,440 you get each one of those in these films 2007 01:29:13,270 --> 01:29:10,480 so that's my list that's the 20 that 2008 01:29:15,750 --> 01:29:13,280 popped into my head as i prepared for 2009 01:29:18,390 --> 01:29:15,760 the show this is fade to black i am your 2010 01:29:19,590 --> 01:29:18,400 host jimmy church tonight on this very 2011 01:29:22,790 --> 01:29:19,600 broadcast 2012 01:29:24,870 --> 01:29:22,800 it is the secrets of time travel i'll be 2013 01:29:26,709 --> 01:29:24,880 right back after this short break and 2014 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01:36:03,030 --> 01:36:00,639 it's one of my favorite subjects and 2147 01:36:05,510 --> 01:36:03,040 next up 2148 01:36:07,350 --> 01:36:05,520 this guy 2149 01:36:08,629 --> 01:36:07,360 john teeter 2150 01:36:11,350 --> 01:36:08,639 there he is 2151 01:36:12,040 --> 01:36:11,360 now this image of john teeter 2152 01:36:13,430 --> 01:36:12,050 um 2153 01:36:17,109 --> 01:36:13,440 [Music] 2154 01:36:18,709 --> 01:36:17,119 started around the internet um many many 2155 01:36:21,910 --> 01:36:18,719 many years ago 2156 01:36:24,709 --> 01:36:21,920 and i don't know if this is john teeter 2157 01:36:27,109 --> 01:36:24,719 but it supposedly is 2158 01:36:29,990 --> 01:36:27,119 um it's got a great haircut 2159 01:36:31,669 --> 01:36:30,000 uh by the way but there's john teeter 2160 01:36:33,669 --> 01:36:31,679 now um 2161 01:36:42,709 --> 01:36:33,679 my 2162 01:36:45,109 --> 01:36:42,719 pretty deep and 2163 01:36:46,870 --> 01:36:45,119 uh when everything started to happen 2164 01:36:50,550 --> 01:36:46,880 john teeter 2165 01:36:51,430 --> 01:36:50,560 uh first started to post as uh somebody 2166 01:36:55,189 --> 01:36:51,440 named 2167 01:36:56,470 --> 01:36:55,199 time travel underscore zero time travel 2168 01:37:00,470 --> 01:36:56,480 zero 2169 01:37:01,910 --> 01:37:00,480 and started posting on the time travel 2170 01:37:04,870 --> 01:37:01,920 institute 2171 01:37:07,109 --> 01:37:04,880 uh which was a web form 2172 01:37:08,310 --> 01:37:07,119 uh about time travel 2173 01:37:10,149 --> 01:37:08,320 and 2174 01:37:12,709 --> 01:37:10,159 uh 2175 01:37:17,030 --> 01:37:12,719 that's that's a whole nother discussion 2176 01:37:19,430 --> 01:37:17,040 and then on art bells uh post to post 2177 01:37:21,990 --> 01:37:19,440 forums and all of this kicked off in 2178 01:37:25,350 --> 01:37:22,000 2000 and 2001 2179 01:37:26,790 --> 01:37:25,360 and this poster uh time travel zero was 2180 01:37:27,910 --> 01:37:26,800 claiming to be 2181 01:37:31,109 --> 01:37:27,920 um 2182 01:37:33,750 --> 01:37:31,119 uh an american military time traveler 2183 01:37:36,229 --> 01:37:33,760 from the year 2036. 2184 01:37:38,629 --> 01:37:36,239 now i was glued 2185 01:37:39,830 --> 01:37:38,639 to these forms i was posting in these 2186 01:37:40,709 --> 01:37:39,840 forms 2187 01:37:43,830 --> 01:37:40,719 and 2188 01:37:46,790 --> 01:37:43,840 uh watching the next post 2189 01:37:47,669 --> 01:37:46,800 and the explanation of things and and 2190 01:37:50,149 --> 01:37:47,679 wow 2191 01:37:51,830 --> 01:37:50,159 right and images started to appear we'll 2192 01:37:54,629 --> 01:37:51,840 get to all of that 2193 01:37:59,109 --> 01:37:57,030 the first post using john teeter's 2194 01:38:01,430 --> 01:37:59,119 military symbol 2195 01:38:05,430 --> 01:38:01,440 appeared on the time travel institute 2196 01:38:09,189 --> 01:38:05,440 forums on november 2nd 2000 and again uh 2197 01:38:11,750 --> 01:38:09,199 under the name of time travel zero 2198 01:38:14,070 --> 01:38:11,760 the name john teeter 2199 01:38:17,510 --> 01:38:14,080 and it's i believe it's teeter it's not 2200 01:38:20,870 --> 01:38:17,520 tighter it's teeter was not used until 2201 01:38:21,990 --> 01:38:20,880 january 2001 when time travel zero began 2202 01:38:26,470 --> 01:38:22,000 posting 2203 01:38:29,350 --> 01:38:26,480 over on the art bell bbs forums 2204 01:38:31,590 --> 01:38:29,360 and a couple of curious things and we're 2205 01:38:35,430 --> 01:38:31,600 going to get into this very deeply here 2206 01:38:37,830 --> 01:38:35,440 in just a second teeter was in a uh 2207 01:38:43,430 --> 01:38:37,840 a very unique name 2208 01:38:44,550 --> 01:38:43,440 in that you couldn't find a history 2209 01:38:46,950 --> 01:38:44,560 of 2210 01:38:48,629 --> 01:38:46,960 teeter or his family anywhere in the 2211 01:38:50,790 --> 01:38:48,639 united states or the world i mean it's 2212 01:38:52,070 --> 01:38:50,800 like a unique name 2213 01:38:55,030 --> 01:38:52,080 and 2214 01:38:56,790 --> 01:38:55,040 if uh if it was a hoax somebody spent a 2215 01:38:59,510 --> 01:38:56,800 long time 2216 01:39:01,910 --> 01:38:59,520 trying to find out a last name 2217 01:39:04,229 --> 01:39:01,920 that just didn't exist 2218 01:39:05,830 --> 01:39:04,239 but teeter 2219 01:39:09,669 --> 01:39:05,840 didn't exist 2220 01:39:11,109 --> 01:39:09,679 and i like a lot of people uh back then 2221 01:39:12,870 --> 01:39:11,119 were immediately 2222 01:39:14,709 --> 01:39:12,880 searching the name teeter and you were 2223 01:39:16,470 --> 01:39:14,719 coming up empty it just did it just 2224 01:39:20,149 --> 01:39:16,480 didn't exist 2225 01:39:22,470 --> 01:39:20,159 except for back on these forms 2226 01:39:24,229 --> 01:39:22,480 now um 2227 01:39:26,550 --> 01:39:24,239 he claimed 2228 01:39:29,510 --> 01:39:26,560 to be a soldier 2229 01:39:31,669 --> 01:39:29,520 uh from 2036 he said that he was based 2230 01:39:36,070 --> 01:39:31,679 out of tampa florida 2231 01:39:39,510 --> 01:39:36,080 he was assigned to a time travel project 2232 01:39:40,550 --> 01:39:39,520 and sent back to 1975 2233 01:39:43,430 --> 01:39:40,560 and 2234 01:39:44,430 --> 01:39:43,440 the mission was specific 2235 01:39:47,270 --> 01:39:44,440 to 2236 01:39:49,590 --> 01:39:47,280 1975 because 2237 01:39:51,470 --> 01:39:49,600 he needed to retrieve 2238 01:39:54,390 --> 01:39:51,480 an ibm 2239 01:39:58,390 --> 01:39:54,400 5100 computer 2240 01:40:00,149 --> 01:39:58,400 and this is one of the 5100s there which 2241 01:40:03,189 --> 01:40:00,159 he said 2242 01:40:07,189 --> 01:40:03,199 was needed to debug 2243 01:40:10,310 --> 01:40:07,199 various legacy computer programs 2244 01:40:14,070 --> 01:40:10,320 in 2036. 2245 01:40:16,950 --> 01:40:14,080 now the ibm 5100 runs the apl in basic 2246 01:40:17,910 --> 01:40:16,960 programming languages 2247 01:40:22,390 --> 01:40:17,920 and 2248 01:40:25,030 --> 01:40:22,400 now so somebody had to have had a pretty 2249 01:40:29,430 --> 01:40:25,040 intense knowledge of computers to make 2250 01:40:32,709 --> 01:40:29,440 this stuff up because these comments 2251 01:40:35,109 --> 01:40:32,719 which were heavily researched and 2252 01:40:37,350 --> 01:40:35,119 continued to be researched turned out 2253 01:40:38,229 --> 01:40:37,360 that this was partially true 2254 01:40:39,109 --> 01:40:38,239 and 2255 01:40:41,830 --> 01:40:39,119 uh 2256 01:40:44,629 --> 01:40:41,840 and and maybe totally true 2257 01:40:46,070 --> 01:40:44,639 and that the issues with 2258 01:40:48,790 --> 01:40:46,080 uh 2259 01:40:51,030 --> 01:40:48,800 those legacy computer programs were real 2260 01:40:54,229 --> 01:40:51,040 but we're only known 2261 01:40:55,669 --> 01:40:54,239 to a handful i'm talking about five or 2262 01:40:58,790 --> 01:40:55,679 six people 2263 01:41:01,270 --> 01:40:58,800 in the programming world back then 2264 01:41:04,950 --> 01:41:01,280 and that also 2265 01:41:07,830 --> 01:41:04,960 raised a lot of questions that that 2266 01:41:10,470 --> 01:41:07,840 was all of this true was john teeter 2267 01:41:13,109 --> 01:41:10,480 time travel zero was he indeed a time 2268 01:41:14,629 --> 01:41:13,119 traveler from 2036. a lot of things were 2269 01:41:15,590 --> 01:41:14,639 presented 2270 01:41:18,390 --> 01:41:15,600 um 2271 01:41:19,910 --> 01:41:18,400 a nuclear war a civil war 2272 01:41:22,390 --> 01:41:19,920 the united states breaking up into 2273 01:41:26,310 --> 01:41:22,400 factions he was part of a regiment that 2274 01:41:27,990 --> 01:41:26,320 was based in in tampa florida um 2275 01:41:31,430 --> 01:41:28,000 communal living 2276 01:41:34,470 --> 01:41:31,440 uh he brought up aspects of uh mad cow 2277 01:41:35,430 --> 01:41:34,480 disease and and some other things 2278 01:41:37,910 --> 01:41:35,440 um 2279 01:41:41,270 --> 01:41:37,920 that were very very interesting some of 2280 01:41:44,149 --> 01:41:41,280 it didn't really turn out to be 2281 01:41:46,470 --> 01:41:44,159 factual but some of it did and it was it 2282 01:41:48,229 --> 01:41:46,480 was a head scratcher for many 2283 01:41:50,950 --> 01:41:48,239 um now 2284 01:41:53,270 --> 01:41:50,960 this is where for me 2285 01:41:55,590 --> 01:41:53,280 uh where the story 2286 01:41:58,390 --> 01:41:55,600 uh took an interesting turn 2287 01:42:01,990 --> 01:41:58,400 and watching this stuff in real time 2288 01:42:04,470 --> 01:42:02,000 back then in 2000 it was an incredible 2289 01:42:08,550 --> 01:42:04,480 ride i mean i couldn't believe it 2290 01:42:12,629 --> 01:42:08,560 and part of it uh it was this 2291 01:42:16,229 --> 01:42:12,639 this was his symbol from his regiment 2292 01:42:18,229 --> 01:42:16,239 and he started posting this online again 2293 01:42:19,590 --> 01:42:18,239 there wasn't any reference to this 2294 01:42:23,030 --> 01:42:19,600 anywhere 2295 01:42:25,750 --> 01:42:23,040 um and if it was 2296 01:42:27,270 --> 01:42:25,760 um artwork that was generated by 2297 01:42:29,669 --> 01:42:27,280 somebody else 2298 01:42:31,189 --> 01:42:29,679 right it would have surfaced eventually 2299 01:42:33,910 --> 01:42:31,199 on the net somebody would have said i 2300 01:42:36,229 --> 01:42:33,920 drew this or i created this or or here's 2301 01:42:38,950 --> 01:42:36,239 the original images to this 2302 01:42:41,109 --> 01:42:38,960 it never happened and even to this day 2303 01:42:42,550 --> 01:42:41,119 by the way i've got to get me a john 2304 01:42:46,070 --> 01:42:42,560 teeter t-shirt 2305 01:42:47,430 --> 01:42:46,080 uh with that symbol on it um but it it's 2306 01:42:49,350 --> 01:42:47,440 never been 2307 01:42:50,310 --> 01:42:49,360 the hoax 2308 01:42:53,510 --> 01:42:50,320 has 2309 01:42:56,310 --> 01:42:53,520 never been revealed and the players 2310 01:42:57,669 --> 01:42:56,320 behind it more on that in just a bit and 2311 01:43:00,870 --> 01:42:57,679 then we have this 2312 01:43:03,270 --> 01:43:00,880 this was his time machine 2313 01:43:05,830 --> 01:43:03,280 now i want you to take a close look um 2314 01:43:08,390 --> 01:43:05,840 we're going to discuss many aspects of 2315 01:43:10,470 --> 01:43:08,400 of this time machine 2316 01:43:11,430 --> 01:43:10,480 and uh 2317 01:43:14,070 --> 01:43:11,440 he 2318 01:43:16,310 --> 01:43:14,080 was very open 2319 01:43:19,030 --> 01:43:16,320 about the technology about how it was 2320 01:43:20,070 --> 01:43:19,040 built uh i think he said general 2321 01:43:22,070 --> 01:43:20,080 electric 2322 01:43:24,550 --> 01:43:22,080 perfected time travel 2323 01:43:26,950 --> 01:43:24,560 and i don't know if this was 2324 01:43:28,950 --> 01:43:26,960 a general electric device but he did 2325 01:43:31,270 --> 01:43:28,960 talk about that he provided schematics 2326 01:43:33,590 --> 01:43:31,280 we'll get into that too as well but what 2327 01:43:35,669 --> 01:43:33,600 i always found interesting about this 2328 01:43:36,709 --> 01:43:35,679 particular time machine 2329 01:43:38,390 --> 01:43:36,719 um 2330 01:43:40,550 --> 01:43:38,400 if it was hoaxed 2331 01:43:41,270 --> 01:43:40,560 then there was a lot of effort put into 2332 01:43:45,669 --> 01:43:41,280 this 2333 01:43:48,310 --> 01:43:45,679 you have labels um you have stickers you 2334 01:43:51,830 --> 01:43:48,320 have instructions you have the model 2335 01:43:53,030 --> 01:43:51,840 building if it's fake right because back 2336 01:43:53,990 --> 01:43:53,040 then 2337 01:43:54,870 --> 01:43:54,000 um 2338 01:43:56,950 --> 01:43:54,880 in 2339 01:43:58,310 --> 01:43:56,960 uh the the mid 2340 01:44:00,790 --> 01:43:58,320 90s 2341 01:44:02,390 --> 01:44:00,800 to go it computers weren't what they are 2342 01:44:04,149 --> 01:44:02,400 today 2343 01:44:07,030 --> 01:44:04,159 they simply weren't 2344 01:44:09,590 --> 01:44:07,040 and so back then 2345 01:44:10,390 --> 01:44:09,600 to generate type 2346 01:44:11,430 --> 01:44:10,400 to 2347 01:44:13,990 --> 01:44:11,440 have 2348 01:44:16,470 --> 01:44:14,000 labels created and made we can do all of 2349 01:44:19,750 --> 01:44:16,480 that easily today back then 2350 01:44:22,550 --> 01:44:19,760 it wasn't a simple process to get done 2351 01:44:26,070 --> 01:44:22,560 you would have to have had a team of 2352 01:44:28,390 --> 01:44:26,080 people involved with this and not only 2353 01:44:30,229 --> 01:44:28,400 uh the artwork 2354 01:44:42,950 --> 01:44:30,239 and the 2355 01:44:45,270 --> 01:44:42,960 by somebody technical on the front end 2356 01:44:48,310 --> 01:44:45,280 and you also have to have the science 2357 01:44:51,430 --> 01:44:48,320 and the physics behind this and and laid 2358 01:44:52,629 --> 01:44:51,440 out there were things that john teeter 2359 01:44:54,950 --> 01:44:52,639 brought up for the first time that was 2360 01:44:57,669 --> 01:44:54,960 never brought up in time travel before 2361 01:44:59,910 --> 01:44:57,679 and one of those aspects 2362 01:45:02,070 --> 01:44:59,920 was gravity clocks 2363 01:45:03,990 --> 01:45:02,080 and i remember him talking about gravity 2364 01:45:07,669 --> 01:45:04,000 clocks what's that well 2365 01:45:09,990 --> 01:45:07,679 and he as he explained it 2366 01:45:13,510 --> 01:45:10,000 wherever you are 2367 01:45:16,390 --> 01:45:13,520 on earth you're going to have a specific 2368 01:45:17,669 --> 01:45:16,400 gravity signature altitude 2369 01:45:19,669 --> 01:45:17,679 location 2370 01:45:21,510 --> 01:45:19,679 all of this comes into play 2371 01:45:23,830 --> 01:45:21,520 and when you travel 2372 01:45:25,109 --> 01:45:23,840 time you want to be 2373 01:45:28,629 --> 01:45:25,119 back 2374 01:45:29,590 --> 01:45:28,639 where you are at that exact precise 2375 01:45:31,669 --> 01:45:29,600 place 2376 01:45:33,030 --> 01:45:31,679 geographically you don't want to be in 2377 01:45:35,189 --> 01:45:33,040 the middle of the ocean you don't want 2378 01:45:37,510 --> 01:45:35,199 to be in the middle of space 2379 01:45:39,350 --> 01:45:37,520 right what if earth is you know going 2380 01:45:40,950 --> 01:45:39,360 around and you time travel earth is on 2381 01:45:41,750 --> 01:45:40,960 the other side of the sun and you come 2382 01:45:43,510 --> 01:45:41,760 out of 2383 01:45:45,030 --> 01:45:43,520 you know and you're floating in space 2384 01:45:48,070 --> 01:45:45,040 you don't want that 2385 01:45:51,030 --> 01:45:48,080 gravity clocks you want to be in the 2386 01:45:53,189 --> 01:45:51,040 exact spot where you are after you're 2387 01:45:55,830 --> 01:45:53,199 done with traveling backwards or 2388 01:45:58,550 --> 01:45:55,840 forwards in time and that was an aspect 2389 01:46:01,910 --> 01:45:58,560 of this and his explanation of it that 2390 01:46:03,990 --> 01:46:01,920 had never been talked about before 2391 01:46:05,350 --> 01:46:04,000 and and for me it was one of the aspects 2392 01:46:07,189 --> 01:46:05,360 of this case 2393 01:46:10,870 --> 01:46:07,199 that was um 2394 01:46:13,189 --> 01:46:10,880 added not only uh was it uh adding to 2395 01:46:14,950 --> 01:46:13,199 the validity of the case 2396 01:46:18,070 --> 01:46:14,960 but it to me 2397 01:46:21,189 --> 01:46:18,080 it involved too many minds 2398 01:46:22,390 --> 01:46:21,199 too many minds to be a hoax 2399 01:46:25,270 --> 01:46:22,400 next 2400 01:46:26,550 --> 01:46:25,280 this is the schematic in the uh the 2401 01:46:28,390 --> 01:46:26,560 breakout 2402 01:46:31,590 --> 01:46:28,400 of uh 2403 01:46:33,990 --> 01:46:31,600 his his his time machine 2404 01:46:35,189 --> 01:46:34,000 now i'm gonna go back to what i just 2405 01:46:36,390 --> 01:46:35,199 brought up 2406 01:46:39,750 --> 01:46:36,400 to do 2407 01:46:41,430 --> 01:46:39,760 something like this at that period of 2408 01:46:42,629 --> 01:46:41,440 time 2409 01:46:44,550 --> 01:46:42,639 this 2410 01:46:46,629 --> 01:46:44,560 is complex 2411 01:46:48,229 --> 01:46:46,639 now you can do this with a cad system 2412 01:46:50,629 --> 01:46:48,239 today on computers 2413 01:46:52,390 --> 01:46:50,639 but back then 2414 01:46:55,910 --> 01:46:52,400 no 2415 01:46:59,030 --> 01:46:55,920 in my eyes in looking at this 2416 01:47:01,830 --> 01:46:59,040 this is a pen and ink drawing 2417 01:47:04,149 --> 01:47:01,840 this isn't a cad drawing remember this 2418 01:47:05,189 --> 01:47:04,159 is the year 2000 now it could have been 2419 01:47:08,470 --> 01:47:05,199 cad 2420 01:47:12,550 --> 01:47:08,480 something like this 2421 01:47:14,550 --> 01:47:12,560 were rare and very expensive used by the 2422 01:47:17,109 --> 01:47:14,560 biggest architectural 2423 01:47:18,390 --> 01:47:17,119 and engineering firms in the world i 2424 01:47:20,470 --> 01:47:18,400 think this 2425 01:47:23,430 --> 01:47:20,480 was drawn 2426 01:47:26,550 --> 01:47:23,440 okay to create i mean to 2427 01:47:29,030 --> 01:47:26,560 uh to be fake i should say it would have 2428 01:47:31,270 --> 01:47:29,040 to be drawn and the artist that would 2429 01:47:33,109 --> 01:47:31,280 have drawn that 2430 01:47:34,629 --> 01:47:33,119 would have come forward would have blown 2431 01:47:37,109 --> 01:47:34,639 this hoax out would say this is the 2432 01:47:38,550 --> 01:47:37,119 original drawing i did in burbank or 2433 01:47:40,950 --> 01:47:38,560 wherever 2434 01:47:43,189 --> 01:47:40,960 in in 1996 2435 01:47:45,669 --> 01:47:43,199 for the john teter hoax no 2436 01:47:47,510 --> 01:47:45,679 i think that's a legitimate 2437 01:47:50,709 --> 01:47:47,520 cad drawing 2438 01:47:52,709 --> 01:47:50,719 from the future 2439 01:47:55,109 --> 01:47:52,719 it's very complex 2440 01:47:57,590 --> 01:47:55,119 and and for a hoax and this is just a 2441 01:48:00,390 --> 01:47:57,600 small part of this 2442 01:48:02,470 --> 01:48:00,400 i have sat around with many people 2443 01:48:05,350 --> 01:48:02,480 discussing john teeter 2444 01:48:06,790 --> 01:48:05,360 and all of the aspects of it and i keep 2445 01:48:07,830 --> 01:48:06,800 falling back 2446 01:48:09,910 --> 01:48:07,840 to 2447 01:48:12,310 --> 01:48:09,920 the time machine that i just showed you 2448 01:48:13,590 --> 01:48:12,320 in the previous photograph and stuff 2449 01:48:16,629 --> 01:48:13,600 like this 2450 01:48:20,629 --> 01:48:16,639 that takes too many people to create 2451 01:48:22,950 --> 01:48:20,639 back then it would have to be authentic 2452 01:48:25,830 --> 01:48:22,960 it would have to be 2453 01:48:27,750 --> 01:48:25,840 next this is another uh this is from the 2454 01:48:29,910 --> 01:48:27,760 technical manual 2455 01:48:32,790 --> 01:48:29,920 and you can see it's part of the 2456 01:48:37,510 --> 01:48:32,800 operational guide for the time machine 2457 01:48:40,709 --> 01:48:37,520 and uh look at that there now we um this 2458 01:48:42,470 --> 01:48:40,719 is great and that looks like an official 2459 01:48:44,310 --> 01:48:42,480 government document to me that looks 2460 01:48:47,270 --> 01:48:44,320 like something from a military training 2461 01:48:49,910 --> 01:48:47,280 manual to me to my eyes 2462 01:48:52,550 --> 01:48:49,920 right now think about that 2463 01:48:56,070 --> 01:48:52,560 very elaborate if it was a hoax 2464 01:48:58,070 --> 01:48:56,080 and somewhere out there if it was a hoax 2465 01:49:01,270 --> 01:48:58,080 all of this stuff exists 2466 01:49:02,390 --> 01:49:01,280 and i am surprised if it if it was 2467 01:49:04,950 --> 01:49:02,400 hoaxed 2468 01:49:07,270 --> 01:49:04,960 that somebody hasn't come forward with 2469 01:49:09,590 --> 01:49:07,280 one of the most sensational hoax stories 2470 01:49:10,550 --> 01:49:09,600 of all time because it's a heck of a 2471 01:49:12,709 --> 01:49:10,560 movie 2472 01:49:15,750 --> 01:49:12,719 right but no 2473 01:49:19,510 --> 01:49:15,760 that's why it's it's stuff like this it 2474 01:49:23,189 --> 01:49:19,520 just feels real to me and i've looked at 2475 01:49:30,629 --> 01:49:26,709 another page from the uh operations 2476 01:49:32,390 --> 01:49:30,639 manual for the time machine again 2477 01:49:35,030 --> 01:49:32,400 right 2478 01:49:37,669 --> 01:49:35,040 it's absolutely incredible to look at 2479 01:49:39,030 --> 01:49:37,679 and when we we look at these pages of 2480 01:49:41,589 --> 01:49:39,040 the manual 2481 01:49:43,589 --> 01:49:41,599 um that's great 2482 01:49:45,830 --> 01:49:43,599 that is totally awesome 2483 01:49:47,030 --> 01:49:45,840 but it's stuff like this that started to 2484 01:49:49,589 --> 01:49:47,040 surface 2485 01:49:53,270 --> 01:49:49,599 um oh uh this is 2486 01:49:55,830 --> 01:49:53,280 uh the the the aspects of time travel 2487 01:49:56,790 --> 01:49:55,840 and how it applies in the operations 2488 01:49:59,189 --> 01:49:56,800 guide 2489 01:50:00,149 --> 01:49:59,199 that that's one of my favorite pages 2490 01:50:02,950 --> 01:50:00,159 and then 2491 01:50:05,990 --> 01:50:02,960 we have this 2492 01:50:08,709 --> 01:50:06,000 this is an actual photograph 2493 01:50:10,470 --> 01:50:08,719 of john teeter's time machine 2494 01:50:14,229 --> 01:50:10,480 in one of his vehicles 2495 01:50:17,270 --> 01:50:14,239 now he used a few different uh 2496 01:50:18,870 --> 01:50:17,280 automobiles and and trucks uh to place 2497 01:50:22,229 --> 01:50:18,880 his time machine in 2498 01:50:24,790 --> 01:50:22,239 and what he found now i i think this was 2499 01:50:27,350 --> 01:50:24,800 a corvette but every time i look at this 2500 01:50:29,350 --> 01:50:27,360 it feels like a mustang to me but but i 2501 01:50:32,870 --> 01:50:29,360 believe this is a corvette 2502 01:50:35,990 --> 01:50:32,880 um this is a crisp and clear picture 2503 01:50:37,910 --> 01:50:36,000 um of there's other versions of this 2504 01:50:39,350 --> 01:50:37,920 picture on the net that aren't as good 2505 01:50:42,470 --> 01:50:39,360 as this i want to present you with the 2506 01:50:45,510 --> 01:50:42,480 best but you can clearly see 2507 01:50:47,510 --> 01:50:45,520 what is happening here and it doesn't 2508 01:50:50,390 --> 01:50:47,520 it doesn't feel fake it doesn't feel 2509 01:50:53,109 --> 01:50:50,400 like it's hoaxed that just looks real 2510 01:50:55,990 --> 01:50:53,119 and he went back and explained that he 2511 01:50:58,390 --> 01:50:56,000 had to use uh another vehicle because he 2512 01:51:00,390 --> 01:50:58,400 found out that the sports car 2513 01:51:02,070 --> 01:51:00,400 with uh the time machine in the front 2514 01:51:04,950 --> 01:51:02,080 seat as you can see in the passenger 2515 01:51:07,189 --> 01:51:04,960 seat the suspension 2516 01:51:10,229 --> 01:51:07,199 wasn't strong enough 2517 01:51:13,030 --> 01:51:10,239 he had to have uh something with a 2518 01:51:14,870 --> 01:51:13,040 beefier suspension a four-wheel drive a 2519 01:51:17,030 --> 01:51:14,880 truck of some kind 2520 01:51:19,430 --> 01:51:17,040 but look at that that's an incredible 2521 01:51:22,310 --> 01:51:19,440 photograph 2522 01:51:25,109 --> 01:51:22,320 this is the time machine it looks like 2523 01:51:28,149 --> 01:51:25,119 it's in a home 2524 01:51:29,189 --> 01:51:28,159 and again it is sitting there so you can 2525 01:51:31,350 --> 01:51:29,199 see it 2526 01:51:32,709 --> 01:51:31,360 um and you can see the labels you can 2527 01:51:35,109 --> 01:51:32,719 see um 2528 01:51:36,229 --> 01:51:35,119 how to operate it the instructions are 2529 01:51:38,790 --> 01:51:36,239 there 2530 01:51:39,669 --> 01:51:38,800 um it's it's just incredible to see 2531 01:51:41,990 --> 01:51:39,679 these 2532 01:51:43,669 --> 01:51:42,000 uh pictures popping up on the forums and 2533 01:51:46,149 --> 01:51:43,679 i was like oh my god 2534 01:51:49,430 --> 01:51:46,159 this is this has gone to a whole nother 2535 01:51:53,750 --> 01:51:49,440 level it's gone to a whole other level 2536 01:51:57,830 --> 01:51:53,760 next uh this is uh his time machine 2537 01:52:00,870 --> 01:51:57,840 i believe in in a blazer or ford bronco 2538 01:52:05,270 --> 01:52:00,880 four-wheel drive he needed the beefier 2539 01:52:06,790 --> 01:52:05,280 suspension and there it is there 2540 01:52:09,830 --> 01:52:06,800 next 2541 01:52:14,070 --> 01:52:09,840 um oh let me back up so 2542 01:52:19,830 --> 01:52:14,080 here um with teeter 2543 01:52:25,350 --> 01:52:23,669 and his openness on the forums ask me 2544 01:52:27,589 --> 01:52:25,360 any question 2545 01:52:29,109 --> 01:52:27,599 right and and the questions were there 2546 01:52:31,990 --> 01:52:29,119 and they were solid 2547 01:52:34,430 --> 01:52:32,000 he didn't dance he didn't skate he he 2548 01:52:36,629 --> 01:52:34,440 answered everything in a very 2549 01:52:39,030 --> 01:52:36,639 straightforward manner 2550 01:52:40,709 --> 01:52:39,040 and the conversations they lasted for 2551 01:52:41,669 --> 01:52:40,719 about a year 2552 01:52:48,310 --> 01:52:41,679 and 2553 01:52:51,109 --> 01:52:48,320 um 2554 01:52:53,430 --> 01:52:51,119 we're so deep and so scientific but 2555 01:52:56,070 --> 01:52:53,440 there was also again the philosophical 2556 01:52:58,470 --> 01:52:56,080 aspect to this what life was like in the 2557 01:53:00,310 --> 01:52:58,480 future what he was dealing with things 2558 01:53:04,149 --> 01:53:00,320 and how he felt 2559 01:53:06,950 --> 01:53:04,159 in in 1975 how he felt in the year 2000 2560 01:53:09,750 --> 01:53:06,960 and and why he had to 2561 01:53:13,109 --> 01:53:09,760 uh come by the year 2000 and that was 2562 01:53:15,589 --> 01:53:13,119 also to see a version of himself um that 2563 01:53:17,589 --> 01:53:15,599 was uh pretty interesting again 2564 01:53:20,390 --> 01:53:17,599 creating a paradox 2565 01:53:21,990 --> 01:53:20,400 well one of the things that john teeter 2566 01:53:26,310 --> 01:53:22,000 had explained 2567 01:53:29,270 --> 01:53:26,320 is that he was creating another timeline 2568 01:53:31,669 --> 01:53:29,280 and so he was able to go and and and 2569 01:53:32,629 --> 01:53:31,679 visit himself without creating a paradox 2570 01:53:34,950 --> 01:53:32,639 i thought that that was pretty 2571 01:53:36,790 --> 01:53:34,960 interesting too as well 2572 01:53:39,430 --> 01:53:36,800 but 2573 01:53:43,350 --> 01:53:39,440 the conversations were deep they were 2574 01:53:44,950 --> 01:53:43,360 long and um the members of these forums 2575 01:53:46,629 --> 01:53:44,960 back then 2576 01:53:51,270 --> 01:53:46,639 um i 2577 01:53:56,310 --> 01:53:53,030 we all 2578 01:53:58,950 --> 01:53:56,320 felt that we were actually talking to a 2579 01:54:01,189 --> 01:53:58,960 real-time traveler i don't think there 2580 01:54:03,270 --> 01:54:01,199 were there was a few skeptics out there 2581 01:54:05,350 --> 01:54:03,280 and you have to be skeptical 2582 01:54:07,750 --> 01:54:05,360 and i think that all of us were pretty 2583 01:54:11,270 --> 01:54:07,760 skeptical in the beginning i think art 2584 01:54:13,830 --> 01:54:11,280 was getting faxes uh sent to him and 2585 01:54:15,109 --> 01:54:13,840 uh to his office out there in parum to 2586 01:54:16,149 --> 01:54:15,119 his studio 2587 01:54:17,910 --> 01:54:16,159 um 2588 01:54:20,070 --> 01:54:17,920 and and 2589 01:54:21,189 --> 01:54:20,080 we had to 2590 01:54:23,430 --> 01:54:21,199 uh 2591 01:54:26,310 --> 01:54:23,440 be skeptical in the beginning but i 2592 01:54:28,070 --> 01:54:26,320 think that faded away uh as as the 2593 01:54:29,350 --> 01:54:28,080 months went by 2594 01:54:31,669 --> 01:54:29,360 in that 2595 01:54:33,109 --> 01:54:31,679 the answers 2596 01:54:34,629 --> 01:54:33,119 seemed 2597 01:54:36,870 --> 01:54:34,639 reasonable 2598 01:54:39,669 --> 01:54:36,880 right i don't think that any of us well 2599 01:54:42,790 --> 01:54:39,679 okay that that doesn't feel quite right 2600 01:54:44,550 --> 01:54:42,800 somebody's making this up 2601 01:54:47,030 --> 01:54:44,560 but then 2602 01:54:49,030 --> 01:54:47,040 he said goodbye 2603 01:54:50,629 --> 01:54:49,040 he said i gotta go i gotta go back my 2604 01:54:53,189 --> 01:54:50,639 mission's over 2605 01:54:54,149 --> 01:54:53,199 and the teeter post 2606 01:54:57,030 --> 01:54:54,159 ended 2607 01:55:00,870 --> 01:54:57,040 in late march of 2001 2608 01:55:03,990 --> 01:55:00,880 and i'm going to tell you i i remember 2609 01:55:05,589 --> 01:55:04,000 sitting there going it's over 2610 01:55:07,510 --> 01:55:05,599 it's done 2611 01:55:10,229 --> 01:55:07,520 and that was it 2612 01:55:13,430 --> 01:55:10,239 now what were we left with 2613 01:55:15,030 --> 01:55:13,440 we were left with trying to unravel this 2614 01:55:16,470 --> 01:55:15,040 and yes 2615 01:55:19,030 --> 01:55:16,480 um 2616 01:55:21,350 --> 01:55:19,040 there were you know his attorney 2617 01:55:23,669 --> 01:55:21,360 his mom was supposed to come on fade to 2618 01:55:27,189 --> 01:55:23,679 black and and 2619 01:55:29,350 --> 01:55:27,199 uh which never happened uh john was 2620 01:55:32,149 --> 01:55:29,360 supposed to have returned 2621 01:55:34,950 --> 01:55:32,159 and and that never happened i there were 2622 01:55:37,189 --> 01:55:34,960 assurances made to me that uh when this 2623 01:55:39,510 --> 01:55:37,199 happened and it was going to 2624 01:55:41,510 --> 01:55:39,520 um that this would happen on fade to 2625 01:55:42,390 --> 01:55:41,520 black well 2626 01:55:44,310 --> 01:55:42,400 uh 2627 01:55:45,189 --> 01:55:44,320 none of that happened 2628 01:55:46,790 --> 01:55:45,199 the 2629 01:55:50,950 --> 01:55:46,800 amount of 2630 01:55:55,990 --> 01:55:53,510 the documentaries that were made uh the 2631 01:55:59,350 --> 01:55:56,000 web series that were done 2632 01:56:02,790 --> 01:55:59,360 um there was a couple of tv movies that 2633 01:56:05,669 --> 01:56:02,800 weren't uh any good that were made 2634 01:56:06,950 --> 01:56:05,679 but i was also contacted 2635 01:56:09,990 --> 01:56:06,960 by 2636 01:56:11,030 --> 01:56:10,000 dozens and dozens of people 2637 01:56:12,470 --> 01:56:11,040 that 2638 01:56:39,990 --> 01:56:12,480 a 2639 01:56:51,350 --> 01:56:40,000 i 2640 01:56:53,109 --> 01:56:51,360 contacted by somebody else that was part 2641 01:56:56,790 --> 01:56:53,119 of the teeter camp 2642 01:57:00,390 --> 01:56:56,800 the one thing that i can tell you as of 2643 01:57:02,629 --> 01:57:00,400 today and here we are the 11th of july 2644 01:57:05,589 --> 01:57:02,639 2022 2645 01:57:10,870 --> 01:57:05,599 the john teeter story 2646 01:57:12,310 --> 01:57:10,880 has not been proven to be a hoax 2647 01:57:14,709 --> 01:57:12,320 has not 2648 01:57:15,990 --> 01:57:14,719 some some good researchers out there 2649 01:57:17,669 --> 01:57:16,000 have put 2650 01:57:19,109 --> 01:57:17,679 pretty comprehensive and compelling 2651 01:57:21,669 --> 01:57:19,119 stories together 2652 01:57:25,830 --> 01:57:21,679 but none of it ever held water 2653 01:57:30,390 --> 01:57:25,840 and no definitive proof of anything 2654 01:57:32,149 --> 01:57:30,400 was ever brought forward and to this day 2655 01:57:34,709 --> 01:57:32,159 the time machine 2656 01:57:36,790 --> 01:57:34,719 has not surfaced if it's in somebody's 2657 01:57:39,270 --> 01:57:36,800 garage 2658 01:57:41,910 --> 01:57:39,280 hasn't surfaced the original field 2659 01:57:44,149 --> 01:57:41,920 manual uh the writers that put that 2660 01:57:47,109 --> 01:57:44,159 together and the graphic designers that 2661 01:57:48,149 --> 01:57:47,119 designed it and the original artwork and 2662 01:57:51,189 --> 01:57:48,159 those fi 2663 01:57:52,870 --> 01:57:51,199 have no the original films that needed 2664 01:57:55,510 --> 01:57:52,880 to be created to make all of those 2665 01:57:57,750 --> 01:57:55,520 stickers uh for the inside of the the 2666 01:58:00,629 --> 01:57:57,760 time machine the lid the instructions on 2667 01:58:01,910 --> 01:58:00,639 how to operate it none of that stuff has 2668 01:58:04,229 --> 01:58:01,920 surfaced 2669 01:58:05,990 --> 01:58:04,239 none of it anybody that took the 2670 01:58:08,790 --> 01:58:06,000 original photographs of stuff that was 2671 01:58:12,070 --> 01:58:08,800 posted online who took those pictures 2672 01:58:15,270 --> 01:58:12,080 where are they they've never surfaced 2673 01:58:17,510 --> 01:58:15,280 none of the real evidence 2674 01:58:19,589 --> 01:58:17,520 you can have circumstantial evidence you 2675 01:58:20,870 --> 01:58:19,599 can have people that say this or that or 2676 01:58:23,109 --> 01:58:20,880 you can have 2677 01:58:25,030 --> 01:58:23,119 different web searches put together and 2678 01:58:27,189 --> 01:58:25,040 ip addresses you can do all of that you 2679 01:58:29,430 --> 01:58:27,199 want that's all circumstantial 2680 01:58:32,629 --> 01:58:29,440 the real evidence 2681 01:58:35,510 --> 01:58:32,639 has never been brought forward and we 2682 01:58:37,830 --> 01:58:35,520 are here in the middle of 2022. 2683 01:58:39,350 --> 01:58:37,840 so i will say this before i get to the 2684 01:58:41,990 --> 01:58:39,360 next break 2685 01:58:43,109 --> 01:58:42,000 if anybody out there 2686 01:58:44,149 --> 01:58:43,119 has 2687 01:58:46,629 --> 01:58:44,159 evidence 2688 01:58:48,950 --> 01:58:46,639 has the original time machine 2689 01:58:52,149 --> 01:58:48,960 has the original photographs has the 2690 01:58:55,030 --> 01:58:52,159 original field manuals uh the technical 2691 01:58:57,350 --> 01:58:55,040 writing that went behind it all of the 2692 01:59:00,390 --> 01:58:57,360 stuff that was presented on the forums 2693 01:59:03,430 --> 01:59:00,400 everything if you have any of that 2694 01:59:05,669 --> 01:59:03,440 i would like to hear from you 2695 01:59:07,669 --> 01:59:05,679 this is fade to black i am your host 2696 01:59:09,030 --> 01:59:07,679 jimmy church tonight 2697 01:59:10,790 --> 01:59:09,040 the secrets 2698 01:59:13,830 --> 01:59:10,800 of time travel 2699 01:59:17,270 --> 01:59:13,840 that's right so that was john teeter 2700 01:59:19,109 --> 01:59:17,280 good stuff right still an open question 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02:05:14,079 gonna keep this rolling got a lot of 2819 02:05:20,950 --> 02:05:18,079 stuff uh to to still get in tonight 2820 02:05:22,629 --> 02:05:20,960 and i promise that uh i will i will do 2821 02:05:24,310 --> 02:05:22,639 my best to get it all in i have a 2822 02:05:25,270 --> 02:05:24,320 feeling we're gonna do a part two part 2823 02:05:28,069 --> 02:05:25,280 three 2824 02:05:30,550 --> 02:05:28,079 and uh i just posted over on twitter you 2825 02:05:32,629 --> 02:05:30,560 can go and check it out uh my back to 2826 02:05:33,510 --> 02:05:32,639 the future license plate it's right 2827 02:05:37,589 --> 02:05:33,520 there 2828 02:05:40,629 --> 02:05:37,599 travel 2829 02:05:42,470 --> 02:05:40,639 um now let's get into uh some of the 2830 02:05:43,589 --> 02:05:42,480 science um 2831 02:05:44,709 --> 02:05:43,599 in this 2832 02:05:49,189 --> 02:05:44,719 uh 2833 02:05:50,229 --> 02:05:49,199 physics say what does science say about 2834 02:05:51,270 --> 02:05:50,239 this 2835 02:05:54,149 --> 02:05:51,280 um 2836 02:05:55,270 --> 02:05:54,159 and so yeah we've let's let's go right 2837 02:05:56,310 --> 02:05:55,280 there 2838 02:05:58,470 --> 02:05:56,320 and 2839 02:06:00,950 --> 02:05:58,480 uh i want to talk about 2840 02:06:04,069 --> 02:06:00,960 the one of the first first aspects of 2841 02:06:05,350 --> 02:06:04,079 this is wormholes 2842 02:06:08,790 --> 02:06:05,360 and 2843 02:06:10,790 --> 02:06:08,800 you can today this is uh what is so 2844 02:06:11,910 --> 02:06:10,800 exciting about this subject about time 2845 02:06:14,629 --> 02:06:11,920 travel 2846 02:06:18,310 --> 02:06:14,639 is you can head into any direction of 2847 02:06:20,229 --> 02:06:18,320 research um on the internet and and 2848 02:06:23,030 --> 02:06:20,239 start reading about the physics of time 2849 02:06:23,990 --> 02:06:23,040 travel lots of books have been written 2850 02:06:27,350 --> 02:06:24,000 on this 2851 02:06:30,550 --> 02:06:27,360 and jump into the subject of wormholes 2852 02:06:32,709 --> 02:06:30,560 and the math the science the algorithms 2853 02:06:35,270 --> 02:06:32,719 the thought processes uh behind 2854 02:06:39,030 --> 02:06:35,280 wormholes and what what is going on 2855 02:06:39,990 --> 02:06:39,040 it is it's deep and it is a very very 2856 02:06:43,589 --> 02:06:40,000 very 2857 02:06:44,470 --> 02:06:43,599 serious subject in the world of science 2858 02:06:46,629 --> 02:06:44,480 and 2859 02:06:49,750 --> 02:06:46,639 now i'm going to get into 2860 02:06:52,709 --> 02:06:49,760 um just about every aspect of wormholes 2861 02:06:56,229 --> 02:06:52,719 and black holes in this next segment 2862 02:06:58,390 --> 02:06:56,239 and first i want to talk about wormholes 2863 02:07:00,629 --> 02:06:58,400 and 2864 02:07:01,430 --> 02:07:00,639 the teleportation 2865 02:07:04,790 --> 02:07:01,440 and 2866 02:07:08,069 --> 02:07:04,800 traveling forwards through time 2867 02:07:10,709 --> 02:07:08,079 may be possible through wormholes 2868 02:07:13,750 --> 02:07:10,719 which are tunnels 2869 02:07:15,030 --> 02:07:13,760 that link different regions of the 2870 02:07:18,470 --> 02:07:15,040 universe 2871 02:07:21,030 --> 02:07:18,480 now instantaneous travel and travel into 2872 02:07:23,990 --> 02:07:21,040 the future would become possible 2873 02:07:25,109 --> 02:07:24,000 by traveling through a wormhole 2874 02:07:27,510 --> 02:07:25,119 and 2875 02:07:31,030 --> 02:07:27,520 this completely free 2876 02:07:34,310 --> 02:07:31,040 aspect of this of of time dilation 2877 02:07:37,990 --> 02:07:34,320 which is predicted by einstein's uh 2878 02:07:41,189 --> 02:07:38,000 theory of relativity now before 2879 02:07:41,990 --> 02:07:41,199 before i get into how it works 2880 02:07:44,390 --> 02:07:42,000 um 2881 02:07:46,950 --> 02:07:44,400 the theory of relativity is brought up a 2882 02:07:51,750 --> 02:07:46,960 lot uh when it comes to wormholes and 2883 02:07:52,830 --> 02:07:51,760 black holes and time travel now einstein 2884 02:07:54,790 --> 02:07:52,840 himself 2885 02:07:57,270 --> 02:07:54,800 didn't use 2886 02:07:58,470 --> 02:07:57,280 words like time travel 2887 02:08:00,229 --> 02:07:58,480 um 2888 02:08:03,669 --> 02:08:00,239 with his research 2889 02:08:05,669 --> 02:08:03,679 and there is crossover between uh 2890 02:08:09,750 --> 02:08:05,679 special and general 2891 02:08:13,430 --> 02:08:09,760 um relativity uh when you apply 2892 02:08:15,589 --> 02:08:13,440 the the the the math and the equations 2893 02:08:18,950 --> 02:08:15,599 uh to what time travel could be and how 2894 02:08:21,189 --> 02:08:18,960 it would be done but einstein himself 2895 02:08:24,550 --> 02:08:21,199 didn't discuss this 2896 02:08:27,750 --> 02:08:24,560 all of this was discovered later 2897 02:08:30,629 --> 02:08:27,760 uh by different physicists who would go 2898 02:08:33,669 --> 02:08:30,639 back and research and apply special and 2899 02:08:35,589 --> 02:08:33,679 general relativity to modern research 2900 02:08:36,629 --> 02:08:35,599 and that's where they went hey wait a 2901 02:08:39,270 --> 02:08:36,639 minute 2902 02:08:41,270 --> 02:08:39,280 time travel is possible because 2903 02:08:44,950 --> 02:08:41,280 einstein's 2904 02:08:48,870 --> 02:08:44,960 figures his numbers his equations 2905 02:08:52,310 --> 02:08:48,880 say that it is so and it is possible 2906 02:08:54,390 --> 02:08:52,320 this came out of later research 2907 02:08:57,910 --> 02:08:54,400 this wasn't something that einstein said 2908 02:08:59,910 --> 02:08:57,920 hey okay let's talk about time travel no 2909 02:09:01,990 --> 02:08:59,920 that's that's uh 2910 02:09:04,709 --> 02:09:02,000 that's that's a myth and that's part of 2911 02:09:07,350 --> 02:09:04,719 popular culture it came out much later 2912 02:09:10,870 --> 02:09:07,360 with very serious uh research going into 2913 02:09:11,990 --> 02:09:10,880 this so how does it work 2914 02:09:13,669 --> 02:09:12,000 well 2915 02:09:15,430 --> 02:09:13,679 you need to picture a couple of 2916 02:09:18,229 --> 02:09:15,440 different things 2917 02:09:20,390 --> 02:09:18,239 um and i'm gonna pop this up for 2918 02:09:21,350 --> 02:09:20,400 everybody to take a look at 2919 02:09:22,390 --> 02:09:21,360 okay 2920 02:09:23,990 --> 02:09:22,400 so 2921 02:09:25,990 --> 02:09:24,000 in this 2922 02:09:28,550 --> 02:09:26,000 illustration here 2923 02:09:30,870 --> 02:09:28,560 you can see the fabric of space and that 2924 02:09:33,109 --> 02:09:30,880 is the black and white grid that is 2925 02:09:33,990 --> 02:09:33,119 folded okay 2926 02:09:35,830 --> 02:09:34,000 now 2927 02:09:38,470 --> 02:09:35,840 in a linear sense 2928 02:09:39,350 --> 02:09:38,480 we're going in one direction on a on a 2929 02:09:45,189 --> 02:09:39,360 ship 2930 02:09:49,189 --> 02:09:45,199 going from point a to point b 2931 02:09:51,750 --> 02:09:49,199 and if point a and point b is 500 light 2932 02:09:55,270 --> 02:09:51,760 years traveling in one direction 2933 02:09:58,229 --> 02:09:55,280 for 500 light years that's how long 2934 02:10:01,430 --> 02:09:58,239 light would take to travel that distance 2935 02:10:05,350 --> 02:10:01,440 for 500 years 2936 02:10:07,030 --> 02:10:05,360 now how would you cheat the system 2937 02:10:09,830 --> 02:10:07,040 you would cheat it 2938 02:10:14,149 --> 02:10:09,840 if you could bend space 2939 02:10:18,709 --> 02:10:14,159 and have one point in space connected 2940 02:10:22,149 --> 02:10:18,719 by a wormhole now here it's illustrated 2941 02:10:24,870 --> 02:10:22,159 as folding space 2942 02:10:27,350 --> 02:10:24,880 that wouldn't necessarily be it depends 2943 02:10:29,109 --> 02:10:27,360 on what aspect of a wormhole you're 2944 02:10:31,350 --> 02:10:29,119 talking about 2945 02:10:33,990 --> 02:10:31,360 but it could still be in a linear sense 2946 02:10:36,229 --> 02:10:34,000 and the wormhole is connecting 2947 02:10:38,550 --> 02:10:36,239 one point to another here it's 2948 02:10:39,990 --> 02:10:38,560 illustrated that it would cover this 2949 02:10:40,790 --> 02:10:40,000 great distance 2950 02:10:42,550 --> 02:10:40,800 by 2951 02:10:43,830 --> 02:10:42,560 going from one point in space to the 2952 02:10:45,589 --> 02:10:43,840 other 2953 02:10:47,830 --> 02:10:45,599 folding space 2954 02:10:48,790 --> 02:10:47,840 all right think um 2955 02:10:52,390 --> 02:10:48,800 uh 2956 02:10:53,270 --> 02:10:52,400 okay 2957 02:10:57,030 --> 02:10:53,280 so 2958 02:11:00,229 --> 02:10:57,040 if you have 2959 02:11:03,030 --> 02:11:00,239 a tunnel a wormhole connecting two 2960 02:11:06,629 --> 02:11:03,040 points in space together 2961 02:11:10,550 --> 02:11:06,639 one end of the wormhole let's say the 2962 02:11:12,550 --> 02:11:10,560 yellow side in in this illustration 2963 02:11:14,950 --> 02:11:12,560 is accelerated 2964 02:11:16,390 --> 02:11:14,960 and then brought back to a point of 2965 02:11:19,350 --> 02:11:16,400 origin 2966 02:11:21,589 --> 02:11:19,360 and this is for the time travel aspect 2967 02:11:23,589 --> 02:11:21,599 and another way to 2968 02:11:26,229 --> 02:11:23,599 is to take 2969 02:11:27,589 --> 02:11:26,239 one entrance now follow me on this stay 2970 02:11:30,229 --> 02:11:27,599 with me 2971 02:11:33,510 --> 02:11:30,239 of the wormhole and move it to within 2972 02:11:36,149 --> 02:11:33,520 the gravitational field of an object 2973 02:11:38,629 --> 02:11:36,159 that has higher gravity 2974 02:11:41,510 --> 02:11:38,639 than the other entrance 2975 02:11:42,629 --> 02:11:41,520 all right and then you return 2976 02:11:45,669 --> 02:11:42,639 it 2977 02:11:48,470 --> 02:11:45,679 near 2978 02:11:50,310 --> 02:11:48,480 the other entrance so you have an exit 2979 02:11:51,430 --> 02:11:50,320 and an entry point but they're both 2980 02:11:52,629 --> 02:11:51,440 holes 2981 02:11:57,430 --> 02:11:52,639 at 2982 02:11:58,950 --> 02:11:57,440 of the wormhole okay 2983 02:12:01,589 --> 02:11:58,960 so 2984 02:12:03,030 --> 02:12:01,599 for both of these methods to work 2985 02:12:04,870 --> 02:12:03,040 to make this connection that you're 2986 02:12:07,750 --> 02:12:04,880 looking at here 2987 02:12:10,550 --> 02:12:07,760 time at the end 2988 02:12:16,870 --> 02:12:10,560 of the wormhole 2989 02:12:20,629 --> 02:12:18,390 or 2990 02:12:22,310 --> 02:12:20,639 it becomes 2991 02:12:23,910 --> 02:12:22,320 younger 2992 02:12:27,430 --> 02:12:23,920 now remember 2993 02:12:28,550 --> 02:12:27,440 everybody has agreed most physicists 2994 02:12:30,950 --> 02:12:28,560 agree 2995 02:12:32,830 --> 02:12:30,960 that traveling to the future is easy you 2996 02:12:35,350 --> 02:12:32,840 just need to jump into something really 2997 02:12:37,109 --> 02:12:35,360 fast head out and make a round trip and 2998 02:12:39,510 --> 02:12:37,119 come back to earth 2999 02:12:41,750 --> 02:12:39,520 that's traveling to the future 3000 02:12:45,189 --> 02:12:41,760 traveling to the past 3001 02:12:47,669 --> 02:12:45,199 is different and complex 3002 02:12:49,910 --> 02:12:47,679 but with a wormhole 3003 02:12:52,790 --> 02:12:49,920 you can 3004 02:12:55,669 --> 02:12:52,800 so if one entrance 3005 02:12:56,870 --> 02:12:55,679 gets returned 3006 02:12:58,870 --> 02:12:56,880 anything 3007 02:13:03,270 --> 02:12:58,880 in that has traveled through the 3008 02:13:06,069 --> 02:13:03,280 wormhole comes out the other side 3009 02:13:11,510 --> 02:13:07,189 okay 3010 02:13:13,750 --> 02:13:11,520 younger than the stationary end 3011 02:13:16,550 --> 02:13:13,760 that is seen by 3012 02:13:18,149 --> 02:13:16,560 an external observer 3013 02:13:20,950 --> 02:13:18,159 all right now 3014 02:13:23,030 --> 02:13:20,960 however there's a however to everything 3015 02:13:25,510 --> 02:13:23,040 time connects differently through the 3016 02:13:28,390 --> 02:13:25,520 wormhole than outside of it 3017 02:13:29,510 --> 02:13:28,400 okay so if you positioned synchronized 3018 02:13:32,149 --> 02:13:29,520 clocks 3019 02:13:35,350 --> 02:13:32,159 at either end of the wormhole 3020 02:13:37,910 --> 02:13:35,360 they will always remain synchronized as 3021 02:13:40,550 --> 02:13:37,920 seen by the observer 3022 02:13:44,709 --> 02:13:40,560 that is passing through the wormhole no 3023 02:13:48,310 --> 02:13:44,719 matter how the two ends move around 3024 02:13:51,030 --> 02:13:48,320 this means now stay with me 3025 02:13:53,990 --> 02:13:51,040 this means that an observer 3026 02:13:57,109 --> 02:13:54,000 entering the younger end 3027 02:13:58,709 --> 02:13:57,119 would exit the older end 3028 02:14:02,069 --> 02:13:58,719 at a time 3029 02:14:05,910 --> 02:14:02,079 when the same age as the younger end is 3030 02:14:08,470 --> 02:14:05,920 occurring effectively going back in time 3031 02:14:11,189 --> 02:14:08,480 as seen by an observer 3032 02:14:14,069 --> 02:14:11,199 from the outside 3033 02:14:15,430 --> 02:14:14,079 now does this seem strange no 3034 02:14:17,750 --> 02:14:15,440 it doesn't 3035 02:14:19,510 --> 02:14:17,760 now a few things have to 3036 02:14:22,870 --> 02:14:19,520 happen 3037 02:14:24,390 --> 02:14:22,880 one and uh i'll circle back to this in a 3038 02:14:27,669 --> 02:14:24,400 little bit 3039 02:14:29,830 --> 02:14:27,679 one you would have to be able to 3040 02:14:32,470 --> 02:14:29,840 enter a wormhole 3041 02:14:34,790 --> 02:14:32,480 it would have to remain open there's 3042 02:14:35,910 --> 02:14:34,800 gravity there's things that you know how 3043 02:14:37,350 --> 02:14:35,920 would you 3044 02:14:40,069 --> 02:14:37,360 prevent 3045 02:14:41,030 --> 02:14:40,079 the wormhole from collapsing down on top 3046 02:14:44,069 --> 02:14:41,040 of you 3047 02:14:46,149 --> 02:14:44,079 right killing you 3048 02:14:47,830 --> 02:14:46,159 so that needs to be 3049 02:14:49,669 --> 02:14:47,840 overcome 3050 02:14:52,950 --> 02:14:49,679 it's something that is presented in the 3051 02:14:55,109 --> 02:14:52,960 movie interstellar again we will circle 3052 02:14:56,629 --> 02:14:55,119 back to that in the way that kip thorne 3053 02:15:00,550 --> 02:14:56,639 deals with this 3054 02:15:02,229 --> 02:15:00,560 all right but back in 1993 3055 02:15:04,709 --> 02:15:02,239 matt visser 3056 02:15:07,589 --> 02:15:04,719 published and argued 3057 02:15:10,229 --> 02:15:07,599 that the two mouths of a wormhole with 3058 02:15:12,790 --> 02:15:10,239 such an induced clock difference 3059 02:15:15,270 --> 02:15:12,800 could not be brought together without 3060 02:15:17,350 --> 02:15:15,280 inducing quantum field and gravitational 3061 02:15:20,069 --> 02:15:17,360 effects that would either make the 3062 02:15:22,390 --> 02:15:20,079 wormhole collapse like i just said 3063 02:15:25,430 --> 02:15:22,400 or the two mouths could not come 3064 02:15:27,830 --> 02:15:25,440 together and they would repel each other 3065 02:15:29,669 --> 02:15:27,840 because of this the two mouths could not 3066 02:15:32,790 --> 02:15:29,679 be brought close enough 3067 02:15:34,310 --> 02:15:32,800 for causality violation to even take 3068 02:15:37,830 --> 02:15:34,320 place 3069 02:15:40,950 --> 02:15:39,270 matt visser 3070 02:15:43,270 --> 02:15:40,960 in 1997 3071 02:15:44,550 --> 02:15:43,280 published another paper this is four 3072 02:15:46,950 --> 02:15:44,560 years later 3073 02:15:51,030 --> 02:15:46,960 and visser hypothesized 3074 02:15:53,589 --> 02:15:51,040 that a complex roman ring 3075 02:15:56,310 --> 02:15:53,599 right named after tom roman by the way 3076 02:16:00,069 --> 02:15:56,320 not the romans but named after tom roman 3077 02:16:04,550 --> 02:16:00,079 a configuration of a number of wormholes 3078 02:16:06,790 --> 02:16:04,560 arranged in a symmetric polygon 3079 02:16:09,669 --> 02:16:06,800 would could 3080 02:16:12,229 --> 02:16:09,679 act as a time machine 3081 02:16:14,310 --> 02:16:12,239 but fitzer also says that this is more 3082 02:16:17,589 --> 02:16:14,320 likely a flaw 3083 02:16:18,550 --> 02:16:17,599 in classical quantum gravity gravity 3084 02:16:20,229 --> 02:16:18,560 theory 3085 02:16:23,030 --> 02:16:20,239 rather than proof 3086 02:16:25,270 --> 02:16:23,040 that time travel is possible 3087 02:16:27,510 --> 02:16:25,280 but what was interesting 3088 02:16:29,350 --> 02:16:27,520 is that the science 3089 02:16:31,750 --> 02:16:29,360 and the math 3090 02:16:32,389 --> 02:16:31,760 said it is so 3091 02:16:34,950 --> 02:16:32,399 now 3092 02:16:37,270 --> 02:16:34,960 physicist kip thorne 3093 02:16:39,110 --> 02:16:37,280 lays everything out beautifully in the 3094 02:16:42,870 --> 02:16:39,120 movie interstellar 3095 02:16:44,070 --> 02:16:42,880 i highly recommend everybody go and read 3096 02:16:46,790 --> 02:16:44,080 his book 3097 02:16:49,669 --> 02:16:46,800 the science of interstellar 3098 02:16:51,270 --> 02:16:49,679 um black holes wormholes 3099 02:16:52,070 --> 02:16:51,280 time travel 3100 02:16:55,030 --> 02:16:52,080 and 3101 02:16:56,549 --> 02:16:55,040 the consequences of in the philosophical 3102 02:16:59,509 --> 02:16:56,559 side of this 3103 02:17:00,469 --> 02:16:59,519 is presented beautifully in the book 3104 02:17:04,309 --> 02:17:00,479 now 3105 02:17:06,469 --> 02:17:04,319 um the math today 3106 02:17:09,589 --> 02:17:06,479 we haven't figured out 3107 02:17:11,190 --> 02:17:09,599 how to keep a wormhole open 3108 02:17:13,110 --> 02:17:11,200 and big enough 3109 02:17:16,150 --> 02:17:13,120 for something to pass through it a 3110 02:17:17,110 --> 02:17:16,160 spaceship for instance a human body 3111 02:17:20,870 --> 02:17:17,120 right 3112 02:17:22,549 --> 02:17:20,880 we haven't but in interstellar 3113 02:17:25,270 --> 02:17:22,559 e.t 3114 02:17:27,669 --> 02:17:25,280 has already done it for us 3115 02:17:30,389 --> 02:17:27,679 that's the other part of it it's a 3116 02:17:31,589 --> 02:17:30,399 brilliant workaround by kip thorne in 3117 02:17:35,270 --> 02:17:31,599 that 3118 02:17:37,429 --> 02:17:35,280 e.t we don't have to build the wormhole 3119 02:17:40,950 --> 02:17:37,439 we don't have to figure out how to get 3120 02:17:43,429 --> 02:17:40,960 it done and to overcome a collapsing 3121 02:17:45,429 --> 02:17:43,439 wormhole the amount of energy that would 3122 02:17:47,030 --> 02:17:45,439 have to be applied to a wormhole not 3123 02:17:49,990 --> 02:17:47,040 only to keep it open 3124 02:17:51,429 --> 02:17:50,000 but to travel either throughout the 3125 02:17:53,750 --> 02:17:51,439 milky way 3126 02:17:56,230 --> 02:17:53,760 or to another galaxy 3127 02:18:00,230 --> 02:17:56,240 and throughout the universe and possibly 3128 02:18:03,030 --> 02:18:00,240 out of the universe to another universe 3129 02:18:04,870 --> 02:18:03,040 et's already got it figured out e.t has 3130 02:18:09,589 --> 02:18:04,880 given us the gift 3131 02:18:11,990 --> 02:18:09,599 of the wormhole now how does kip thorne 3132 02:18:14,469 --> 02:18:12,000 present the wormhole and and what it 3133 02:18:16,389 --> 02:18:14,479 looks like in the interstellar this is 3134 02:18:17,349 --> 02:18:16,399 what was really interesting 3135 02:18:20,230 --> 02:18:17,359 um 3136 02:18:22,629 --> 02:18:20,240 it's just a sphere 3137 02:18:25,429 --> 02:18:22,639 in space it's just a ball 3138 02:18:27,509 --> 02:18:25,439 it's not a tunnel 3139 02:18:28,790 --> 02:18:27,519 going out you know you no that's not 3140 02:18:30,790 --> 02:18:28,800 what you see 3141 02:18:33,190 --> 02:18:30,800 it's just a sphere 3142 02:18:36,790 --> 02:18:33,200 and you enter the sphere and the 3143 02:18:39,830 --> 02:18:36,800 wormhole is then going to transport you 3144 02:18:41,589 --> 02:18:39,840 again a brilliant workaround and this is 3145 02:18:45,190 --> 02:18:41,599 kip thorne's math 3146 02:18:48,150 --> 02:18:45,200 um a nobel prize-winning 3147 02:18:51,270 --> 02:18:48,160 physicist who has been researching all 3148 02:18:52,469 --> 02:18:51,280 aspects of wormholes and black holes for 3149 02:18:55,750 --> 02:18:52,479 decades 3150 02:18:57,750 --> 02:18:55,760 and when christopher nolan needed to be 3151 02:18:59,750 --> 02:18:57,760 to bring in the big brain 3152 02:19:01,750 --> 02:18:59,760 he brought in kip thorne 3153 02:19:05,110 --> 02:19:01,760 and kip thorne was 3154 02:19:07,509 --> 02:19:05,120 very adamant from the beginning that yes 3155 02:19:10,309 --> 02:19:07,519 he'll come in and he'll work on the the 3156 02:19:12,790 --> 02:19:10,319 the the movie and the idea behind 3157 02:19:16,150 --> 02:19:12,800 interstellar goes back a long ways uh 3158 02:19:17,990 --> 02:19:16,160 before um uh christopher nolan was even 3159 02:19:20,709 --> 02:19:18,000 brought into direct there were many 3160 02:19:22,950 --> 02:19:20,719 directors including steven spielberg 3161 02:19:23,669 --> 02:19:22,960 that uh stephen was originally going to 3162 02:19:27,030 --> 02:19:23,679 do 3163 02:19:28,150 --> 02:19:27,040 interstellar um back in the 90s and 3164 02:19:31,190 --> 02:19:28,160 that's a little 3165 02:19:34,469 --> 02:19:31,200 little piece of hollywood trivia for you 3166 02:19:37,190 --> 02:19:34,479 but but kip wanted to make sure 3167 02:19:39,910 --> 02:19:37,200 that his research and the science behind 3168 02:19:41,669 --> 02:19:39,920 all of this time travel and the deep 3169 02:19:43,429 --> 02:19:41,679 philosophical questions would be 3170 02:19:45,349 --> 02:19:43,439 addressed directly 3171 02:19:46,950 --> 02:19:45,359 in interstellar including the 3172 02:19:50,389 --> 02:19:46,960 visualizations 3173 02:19:51,990 --> 02:19:50,399 of both black holes and wormholes 3174 02:19:54,230 --> 02:19:52,000 next 3175 02:19:56,469 --> 02:19:54,240 black holes 3176 02:19:58,230 --> 02:19:56,479 all right 3177 02:20:00,429 --> 02:19:58,240 gargantuan 3178 02:20:03,429 --> 02:20:00,439 this black hole in 3179 02:20:06,309 --> 02:20:03,439 interstellar um again 3180 02:20:07,750 --> 02:20:06,319 we have to go back to this because it is 3181 02:20:09,990 --> 02:20:07,760 presented 3182 02:20:13,349 --> 02:20:10,000 uh correctly 3183 02:20:14,150 --> 02:20:13,359 in interstellar the technical aspect of 3184 02:20:17,670 --> 02:20:14,160 it 3185 02:20:21,270 --> 02:20:17,680 the time travel side is presented like 3186 02:20:27,349 --> 02:20:23,830 you have an event horizon you have your 3187 02:20:28,830 --> 02:20:27,359 black hole let me pull up this image 3188 02:20:30,469 --> 02:20:28,840 and 3189 02:20:31,910 --> 02:20:30,479 uh 3190 02:20:36,309 --> 02:20:31,920 that's a 3191 02:20:38,150 --> 02:20:36,319 and 3192 02:20:39,830 --> 02:20:38,160 reminds you of something it reminds you 3193 02:20:41,110 --> 02:20:39,840 of the way it is presented in 3194 02:20:46,630 --> 02:20:41,120 interstellar 3195 02:20:52,790 --> 02:20:48,550 you can see the black hole and then you 3196 02:20:55,030 --> 02:20:52,800 see the white line on the inside 3197 02:20:57,510 --> 02:20:55,040 of the edge of the black hole 3198 02:20:59,190 --> 02:20:57,520 okay so you have 3199 02:21:00,550 --> 02:20:59,200 two ridges 3200 02:21:01,990 --> 02:21:00,560 you have the edge of the black hole 3201 02:21:03,830 --> 02:21:02,000 where you can 3202 02:21:06,230 --> 02:21:03,840 cruise around and sort of 3203 02:21:07,830 --> 02:21:06,240 still be safe and maybe your planet's 3204 02:21:10,309 --> 02:21:07,840 not going to get sucked in but then you 3205 02:21:12,469 --> 02:21:10,319 have the event horizon and once you 3206 02:21:15,590 --> 02:21:12,479 cross the event horizon a few things 3207 02:21:19,270 --> 02:21:15,600 happen but one you're not coming back 3208 02:21:22,710 --> 02:21:19,280 and the gravity is so strong there that 3209 02:21:24,550 --> 02:21:22,720 once light enters light does not come 3210 02:21:28,630 --> 02:21:24,560 back out 3211 02:21:31,670 --> 02:21:28,640 that's the reason why it's black 3212 02:21:33,750 --> 02:21:31,680 the event horizon 3213 02:21:36,389 --> 02:21:33,760 once you are there 3214 02:21:37,910 --> 02:21:36,399 time freezes 3215 02:21:39,750 --> 02:21:37,920 for you 3216 02:21:41,270 --> 02:21:39,760 so if you are inside of a craft and the 3217 02:21:43,910 --> 02:21:41,280 way that this is presented in 3218 02:21:47,030 --> 02:21:43,920 interstellar which is why if you haven't 3219 02:21:49,910 --> 02:21:47,040 seen the movie go and watch it uh just 3220 02:21:50,870 --> 02:21:49,920 for these scenes uh with gargantuan but 3221 02:21:52,710 --> 02:21:50,880 also 3222 02:21:54,469 --> 02:21:52,720 if you've seen the movie and maybe 3223 02:21:57,110 --> 02:21:54,479 didn't understand it the way that i'm 3224 02:22:00,070 --> 02:21:57,120 explaining it to you now you can go back 3225 02:22:01,429 --> 02:22:00,080 and watch with another mind and another 3226 02:22:03,510 --> 02:22:01,439 set of eyes 3227 02:22:05,190 --> 02:22:03,520 okay so 3228 02:22:06,870 --> 02:22:05,200 they needed to do a couple of things in 3229 02:22:10,790 --> 02:22:06,880 the movie to complete the mission i 3230 02:22:13,190 --> 02:22:10,800 won't give that away but here's the deal 3231 02:22:14,630 --> 02:22:13,200 what was presented in the movie 3232 02:22:17,750 --> 02:22:14,640 is that 3233 02:22:19,190 --> 02:22:17,760 there was a planet that was possibly 3234 02:22:22,389 --> 02:22:19,200 earth-like 3235 02:22:24,630 --> 02:22:22,399 that we could maybe live on 3236 02:22:26,150 --> 02:22:24,640 that matthew mcconaughey had to go and 3237 02:22:27,990 --> 02:22:26,160 check out we had already sent an 3238 02:22:29,270 --> 02:22:28,000 advanced team through the wormhole to 3239 02:22:31,830 --> 02:22:29,280 this planet 3240 02:22:33,830 --> 02:22:31,840 um and we never heard back but we needed 3241 02:22:35,349 --> 02:22:33,840 matthew and the t needed to get down on 3242 02:22:37,030 --> 02:22:35,359 the planet to see the condition of the 3243 02:22:40,070 --> 02:22:37,040 planet but he knew 3244 02:22:43,110 --> 02:22:40,080 that it was at the edge of this black 3245 02:22:44,150 --> 02:22:43,120 hole gargantuan and going down on this 3246 02:22:47,429 --> 02:22:44,160 planet 3247 02:22:49,110 --> 02:22:47,439 uh would present a time issue now the 3248 02:22:51,830 --> 02:22:49,120 time issue 3249 02:22:54,710 --> 02:22:51,840 wasn't as much for 3250 02:22:57,510 --> 02:22:54,720 matthew and his crew 3251 02:22:58,790 --> 02:22:57,520 it was getting back to earth and his 3252 02:23:01,750 --> 02:22:58,800 daughter 3253 02:23:05,030 --> 02:23:01,760 and he didn't want to 3254 02:23:09,429 --> 02:23:05,040 miss his life and his family in that 3255 02:23:11,349 --> 02:23:09,439 if any if they spend too much time there 3256 02:23:13,670 --> 02:23:11,359 time would pass on earth and by the time 3257 02:23:15,670 --> 02:23:13,680 they got back earth would be a different 3258 02:23:17,349 --> 02:23:15,680 place in fact earth may even be a dead 3259 02:23:18,950 --> 02:23:17,359 planet and 3260 02:23:21,910 --> 02:23:18,960 all hope is lost 3261 02:23:24,070 --> 02:23:21,920 and that was the big philosophical issue 3262 02:23:25,510 --> 02:23:24,080 that was presented here 3263 02:23:27,030 --> 02:23:25,520 so 3264 02:23:28,230 --> 02:23:27,040 that's what happens at the edge of a 3265 02:23:30,790 --> 02:23:28,240 black hole 3266 02:23:34,950 --> 02:23:30,800 and that is part of time travel 3267 02:23:37,110 --> 02:23:34,960 so not going at the speed of light 3268 02:23:39,270 --> 02:23:37,120 and leaving a planet at the speed of 3269 02:23:41,429 --> 02:23:39,280 light and turning around and coming back 3270 02:23:43,190 --> 02:23:41,439 but just visiting the edge of a black 3271 02:23:46,230 --> 02:23:43,200 hole in this planet 3272 02:23:49,030 --> 02:23:46,240 was going to change the length of time 3273 02:23:51,429 --> 02:23:49,040 that would pass back on earth 3274 02:23:53,510 --> 02:23:51,439 as we all know 3275 02:23:55,510 --> 02:23:53,520 something goes wrong but the way that 3276 02:23:58,230 --> 02:23:55,520 it's presented in the movie was an 3277 02:24:00,550 --> 02:23:58,240 interesting one because 3278 02:24:03,190 --> 02:24:00,560 it was only 3279 02:24:06,230 --> 02:24:03,200 an hour 3280 02:24:10,150 --> 02:24:08,950 when matthew gets back 3281 02:24:11,990 --> 02:24:10,160 to 3282 02:24:14,950 --> 02:24:12,000 the craft 3283 02:24:18,950 --> 02:24:14,960 which is orbiting the planet 3284 02:24:22,630 --> 02:24:18,960 21 years have passed in that one hour at 3285 02:24:25,670 --> 02:24:22,640 the edge of a black hole that's why 3286 02:24:27,670 --> 02:24:25,680 time travel is completely possible 3287 02:24:30,150 --> 02:24:27,680 if you can get to a black hole and get 3288 02:24:31,510 --> 02:24:30,160 to the edge of it 3289 02:24:33,750 --> 02:24:31,520 i'm going to talk about some current 3290 02:24:35,670 --> 02:24:33,760 research that's going on right now here 3291 02:24:39,110 --> 02:24:35,680 on planet earth about this 3292 02:24:43,910 --> 02:24:42,309 by the time they get back to earth 3293 02:24:46,710 --> 02:24:43,920 60 3294 02:24:49,429 --> 02:24:46,720 70 years have passed 3295 02:24:51,590 --> 02:24:49,439 and they've left earth 3296 02:24:53,590 --> 02:24:51,600 earth is a dead planet 3297 02:24:55,190 --> 02:24:53,600 they've built another earth 3298 02:24:58,309 --> 02:24:55,200 out there in space 3299 02:25:01,990 --> 02:25:00,950 a fake earth with gravity 3300 02:25:02,790 --> 02:25:02,000 and 3301 02:25:06,870 --> 02:25:02,800 when 3302 02:25:08,309 --> 02:25:06,880 and he sees where he's at remember he 3303 02:25:11,190 --> 02:25:08,319 travels through the center of the black 3304 02:25:13,510 --> 02:25:11,200 hole he sees his 3305 02:25:15,910 --> 02:25:13,520 they take him to his farmhouse but it 3306 02:25:18,389 --> 02:25:15,920 wasn't the farm house on earth 3307 02:25:20,070 --> 02:25:18,399 it was a reproduction they rebuilt it as 3308 02:25:22,309 --> 02:25:20,080 a museum 3309 02:25:24,389 --> 02:25:22,319 because all of this time has passed but 3310 02:25:26,710 --> 02:25:24,399 his daughter is still alive 3311 02:25:27,590 --> 02:25:26,720 back to the philosophical sides of time 3312 02:25:30,150 --> 02:25:27,600 travel 3313 02:25:33,270 --> 02:25:30,160 are you willing to give that up 3314 02:25:35,349 --> 02:25:33,280 now before i continue 3315 02:25:39,830 --> 02:25:35,359 i will say this 3316 02:25:41,830 --> 02:25:39,840 um visiting black holes is a big part of 3317 02:25:42,710 --> 02:25:41,840 science fiction 3318 02:25:45,190 --> 02:25:42,720 and 3319 02:25:47,750 --> 02:25:45,200 traveling at the speed of light away 3320 02:25:50,630 --> 02:25:47,760 from earth and warp drives 3321 02:25:53,670 --> 02:25:50,640 is part of science fiction and zipping 3322 02:25:56,389 --> 02:25:53,680 away from something just watch orville 3323 02:25:58,070 --> 02:25:56,399 watch any episode of star trek get us 3324 02:26:01,990 --> 02:25:58,080 out of here foot 3325 02:26:04,469 --> 02:26:02,000 gone right or you see the ships arrive 3326 02:26:07,990 --> 02:26:04,479 right you see this right it's part of 3327 02:26:10,630 --> 02:26:08,000 science fiction but here's the deal 3328 02:26:13,110 --> 02:26:10,640 if you are on the starship enterprise 3329 02:26:14,469 --> 02:26:13,120 and you zip away from earth 3330 02:26:17,190 --> 02:26:14,479 at the 3331 02:26:19,830 --> 02:26:17,200 uh with your warp drive on 3332 02:26:22,150 --> 02:26:19,840 you're not coming back to earth 3333 02:26:24,870 --> 02:26:22,160 in the same time period 3334 02:26:27,190 --> 02:26:24,880 you're coming back to earth a thousand 3335 02:26:28,790 --> 02:26:27,200 years in the future set the same earth 3336 02:26:32,790 --> 02:26:28,800 that you have left 3337 02:26:35,429 --> 02:26:32,800 this is an aspect of time travel that is 3338 02:26:37,750 --> 02:26:35,439 not addressed in science fiction today 3339 02:26:40,469 --> 02:26:37,760 why they do it in interstellar but they 3340 02:26:42,230 --> 02:26:40,479 do don't do it everywhere else 3341 02:26:45,750 --> 02:26:42,240 i'm going to tell you why 3342 02:26:48,710 --> 02:26:45,760 because you would have to have 3343 02:26:49,750 --> 02:26:48,720 a time travel aspect of going back in 3344 02:26:53,750 --> 02:26:49,760 time 3345 02:26:54,950 --> 02:26:53,760 come back it's got to be written into 3346 02:26:56,790 --> 02:26:54,960 the story 3347 02:26:58,790 --> 02:26:56,800 so they don't they don't address that 3348 02:27:02,389 --> 02:26:58,800 part of it and i hope you follow what 3349 02:27:03,429 --> 02:27:02,399 i'm saying so we split earth warp drive 3350 02:27:05,110 --> 02:27:03,439 gone 3351 02:27:06,950 --> 02:27:05,120 and we're gonna come back to earth and 3352 02:27:08,710 --> 02:27:06,960 tell everybody what we found you're not 3353 02:27:10,870 --> 02:27:08,720 just showing back up at earth at the 3354 02:27:12,950 --> 02:27:10,880 same time that you left 3355 02:27:14,870 --> 02:27:12,960 on the mission to tell everybody what 3356 02:27:17,270 --> 02:27:14,880 you found out and that you've completed 3357 02:27:19,750 --> 02:27:17,280 your mission you can't on the way back 3358 02:27:21,429 --> 02:27:19,760 the conversation has to happen okay 3359 02:27:23,349 --> 02:27:21,439 we've got to uh 3360 02:27:25,429 --> 02:27:23,359 we've got to go back in time now 3361 02:27:26,550 --> 02:27:25,439 everybody activates your time suits 3362 02:27:28,790 --> 02:27:26,560 whatever 3363 02:27:31,830 --> 02:27:28,800 and they got to go thousand years back 3364 02:27:34,150 --> 02:27:31,840 in time to write back at earth to that 3365 02:27:37,590 --> 02:27:34,160 and that aspect of it would have to be 3366 02:27:39,910 --> 02:27:37,600 written into every science fiction tv 3367 02:27:41,270 --> 02:27:39,920 series and movies where the stuff is 3368 02:27:44,070 --> 02:27:41,280 going on 3369 02:27:47,270 --> 02:27:44,080 now think about this all of you trekkies 3370 02:27:50,150 --> 02:27:47,280 out there all of you star wars fans out 3371 02:27:52,389 --> 02:27:50,160 there all of you marvel universe fans 3372 02:27:55,110 --> 02:27:52,399 think about what i'm about to say you're 3373 02:27:57,030 --> 02:27:55,120 out there on the starship enterprise 3374 02:28:01,190 --> 02:27:57,040 zipping around 3375 02:28:02,710 --> 02:28:01,200 all of these galaxies and and 3376 02:28:04,870 --> 02:28:02,720 star systems 3377 02:28:06,469 --> 02:28:04,880 at warp drive speed every single day 3378 02:28:07,349 --> 02:28:06,479 let's get us out of here get us out of 3379 02:28:08,309 --> 02:28:07,359 here 3380 02:28:13,349 --> 02:28:08,319 your 3381 02:28:15,990 --> 02:28:13,359 is so screwed up 3382 02:28:18,230 --> 02:28:16,000 and and and getting involved with 3383 02:28:21,190 --> 02:28:18,240 another pulling up to another starship 3384 02:28:23,030 --> 02:28:21,200 uh whatever starship atlantis pulling up 3385 02:28:25,830 --> 02:28:23,040 what's up admiral 3386 02:28:27,429 --> 02:28:25,840 what what what place in time are they 3387 02:28:29,670 --> 02:28:27,439 coming from 3388 02:28:30,790 --> 02:28:29,680 they just left something else where are 3389 02:28:34,389 --> 02:28:30,800 they 3390 02:28:36,550 --> 02:28:34,399 nothing is in the same place 3391 02:28:37,910 --> 02:28:36,560 and that is what is being researched 3392 02:28:38,830 --> 02:28:37,920 right now 3393 02:28:40,710 --> 02:28:38,840 by 3394 02:28:45,190 --> 02:28:40,720 cern 3395 02:28:47,270 --> 02:28:45,200 right now 3396 02:28:51,429 --> 02:28:47,280 to go back and address 3397 02:28:53,270 --> 02:28:51,439 einstein's space time 3398 02:28:55,830 --> 02:28:53,280 now let's talk about that for a second 3399 02:28:59,429 --> 02:28:55,840 before we get to the break 3400 02:29:01,510 --> 02:28:59,439 we know that a a large mass in the 3401 02:29:04,309 --> 02:29:01,520 middle of space bends the fabric of 3402 02:29:07,990 --> 02:29:04,319 space around it and that time that is 3403 02:29:10,710 --> 02:29:08,000 moving past any of these large masses is 3404 02:29:12,150 --> 02:29:10,720 going to have a different aspect of time 3405 02:29:14,230 --> 02:29:12,160 applied to it 3406 02:29:16,550 --> 02:29:14,240 i don't know if you guys know this but 3407 02:29:19,270 --> 02:29:16,560 we have a thing called the sun 3408 02:29:20,150 --> 02:29:19,280 and it's pretty big 3409 02:29:22,790 --> 02:29:20,160 and 3410 02:29:25,670 --> 02:29:22,800 space time is changing around the sun 3411 02:29:28,309 --> 02:29:25,680 we're orbiting the sun things pass by 3412 02:29:29,830 --> 02:29:28,319 the sun things pass by earth earth is a 3413 02:29:30,950 --> 02:29:29,840 gras 3414 02:29:33,750 --> 02:29:30,960 a mass 3415 02:29:35,349 --> 02:29:33,760 where space time is bent around it too 3416 02:29:36,870 --> 02:29:35,359 as well we've got the moon we've got 3417 02:29:39,510 --> 02:29:36,880 jupiter we've got 3418 02:29:41,750 --> 02:29:39,520 saturn and mars and venus 3419 02:29:44,710 --> 02:29:41,760 where all of these aspects 3420 02:29:47,670 --> 02:29:44,720 are bending space-time 3421 02:29:50,710 --> 02:29:47,680 if you look back at einstein's own 3422 02:29:52,630 --> 02:29:50,720 comments about this 3423 02:29:56,309 --> 02:29:52,640 it has to be true 3424 02:29:58,389 --> 02:29:56,319 so cern right now is going back to 3425 02:30:01,990 --> 02:29:58,399 figure some of this stuff out 3426 02:30:04,309 --> 02:30:02,000 how does that apply to us today we 3427 02:30:07,190 --> 02:30:04,319 have watches i have a clock right in 3428 02:30:10,630 --> 02:30:07,200 front of me clicking away 3429 02:30:12,389 --> 02:30:10,640 that is our version of time 3430 02:30:14,550 --> 02:30:12,399 it's different 3431 02:30:17,590 --> 02:30:14,560 just around us 3432 02:30:19,830 --> 02:30:17,600 right here in our own star system 3433 02:30:22,150 --> 02:30:19,840 think about that 3434 02:30:24,070 --> 02:30:22,160 nothing is what it seems 3435 02:30:25,830 --> 02:30:24,080 this is fade to black i am your host 3436 02:30:27,510 --> 02:30:25,840 jimmy church tonight 3437 02:30:29,510 --> 02:30:27,520 the secrets 3438 02:30:32,230 --> 02:30:29,520 of time travel this is the stuff that 3439 02:30:34,150 --> 02:30:32,240 nobody else will talk about no physicist 3440 02:30:35,429 --> 02:30:34,160 is going to discuss this stuff 3441 02:30:37,990 --> 02:30:35,439 [Music] 3442 02:30:39,590 --> 02:30:38,000 and hollywood conveniently leaves a lot 3443 02:30:42,550 --> 02:30:39,600 out don't they 3444 02:30:44,950 --> 02:30:42,560 they have to it's a trip this is fade to 3445 02:30:47,030 --> 02:30:44,960 black tonight the secrets of time travel 3446 02:30:48,710 --> 02:30:47,040 i'm your host jimmy church 3447 02:30:51,130 --> 02:30:48,720 i'll be back with more right after this 3448 02:31:00,000 --> 02:30:51,140 short break 3449 02:31:01,290 --> 02:31:00,010 [Music] 3450 02:31:09,270 --> 02:31:01,300 [Applause] 3451 02:31:12,950 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you love the new paranormal radio app 3537 02:35:13,030 --> 02:35:11,280 from talkstream live 3538 02:35:15,830 --> 02:35:13,040 you'll find a great selection of talk 3539 02:35:18,469 --> 02:35:15,840 shows covering ufos ghosts strange 3540 02:35:20,790 --> 02:35:18,479 phenomena and much more download the 3541 02:35:22,790 --> 02:35:20,800 paranormal radio app now and start 3542 02:35:25,030 --> 02:35:22,800 listening to the very best in paranormal 3543 02:35:26,790 --> 02:35:25,040 talk entertainment including the network 3544 02:35:29,990 --> 02:35:26,800 you're listening to right now the 3545 02:35:38,480 --> 02:35:30,000 paranormal radio app free in google play 3546 02:35:43,750 --> 02:35:40,630 [Music] 3547 02:35:47,429 --> 02:35:43,760 it's not a lifestyle we chose we were 3548 02:35:51,320 --> 02:35:47,439 born this way this is kjcr 3549 02:36:06,389 --> 02:36:02,180 [Music] 3550 02:36:09,429 --> 02:36:06,399 welcome back fade to black tonight very 3551 02:36:11,830 --> 02:36:09,439 special event the secrets of time travel 3552 02:36:13,670 --> 02:36:11,840 i'm your host jimmy church and two and a 3553 02:36:16,870 --> 02:36:13,680 half hours tonight 3554 02:36:18,630 --> 02:36:16,880 of time travel and and i'm doing five 3555 02:36:19,830 --> 02:36:18,640 different segments 3556 02:36:20,630 --> 02:36:19,840 uh 3557 02:36:23,510 --> 02:36:20,640 on 3558 02:36:25,349 --> 02:36:23,520 different aspects of it and i will come 3559 02:36:27,590 --> 02:36:25,359 back and do a part two 3560 02:36:30,630 --> 02:36:27,600 each one of these segments tonight is a 3561 02:36:33,190 --> 02:36:30,640 two and a half hour show but all of the 3562 02:36:34,870 --> 02:36:33,200 sides of time travel need to be 3563 02:36:38,469 --> 02:36:34,880 presented and that's what we are doing 3564 02:36:40,150 --> 02:36:38,479 tonight okay now um 3565 02:36:43,030 --> 02:36:40,160 in this last segment 3566 02:36:44,309 --> 02:36:43,040 i want to talk about paradoxes 3567 02:36:46,630 --> 02:36:44,319 and 3568 02:36:47,750 --> 02:36:46,640 paradoxes like 3569 02:36:50,710 --> 02:36:47,760 many 3570 02:36:53,110 --> 02:36:50,720 different aspects of time travel you get 3571 02:36:56,870 --> 02:36:53,120 into paradoxes and 3572 02:37:00,950 --> 02:36:56,880 each paradox and the ideas behind it 3573 02:37:04,870 --> 02:37:00,960 uh can quickly spin off into another 3574 02:37:05,910 --> 02:37:04,880 10 15 20 even an infinite amount 3575 02:37:10,710 --> 02:37:05,920 of 3576 02:37:12,309 --> 02:37:10,720 and questions uh it's it's it's crazy 3577 02:37:15,110 --> 02:37:12,319 and it's deep 3578 02:37:19,190 --> 02:37:15,120 um one of the things that i wanted to 3579 02:37:21,429 --> 02:37:19,200 start off with um is the latest episode 3580 02:37:23,990 --> 02:37:21,439 of the orville 3581 02:37:25,830 --> 02:37:24,000 and again i don't want to uh 3582 02:37:29,030 --> 02:37:25,840 to give anything away 3583 02:37:31,990 --> 02:37:29,040 um but uh the latest episode deals with 3584 02:37:36,070 --> 02:37:32,000 the philosophical aspects of time travel 3585 02:37:39,030 --> 02:37:36,080 it gets very deep and very emotional 3586 02:37:40,710 --> 02:37:39,040 um now the way that the science is 3587 02:37:43,349 --> 02:37:40,720 presented here 3588 02:37:45,190 --> 02:37:43,359 um is is pretty solid and it's pretty 3589 02:37:47,590 --> 02:37:45,200 sound and it's also dealing with the 3590 02:37:49,270 --> 02:37:47,600 speed speed of light in other aspects 3591 02:37:50,469 --> 02:37:49,280 and they build a time machine and things 3592 02:37:52,389 --> 02:37:50,479 but 3593 02:37:54,550 --> 02:37:52,399 um 3594 02:37:57,190 --> 02:37:54,560 what would happen 3595 02:37:59,190 --> 02:37:57,200 if uh okay 3596 02:38:01,510 --> 02:37:59,200 i'm not going to give anything away 3597 02:38:03,349 --> 02:38:01,520 but here's a hypothetical thing that 3598 02:38:04,309 --> 02:38:03,359 they're dealing with so just think about 3599 02:38:05,190 --> 02:38:04,319 this 3600 02:38:06,150 --> 02:38:05,200 so 3601 02:38:08,469 --> 02:38:06,160 um 3602 02:38:13,429 --> 02:38:10,309 come back to earth 3603 02:38:18,469 --> 02:38:16,309 you end up spending 10 years here 3604 02:38:22,550 --> 02:38:18,479 and 3605 02:38:26,309 --> 02:38:22,560 the crew is is going to rescue you 3606 02:38:28,550 --> 02:38:26,319 and the crew spends 3607 02:38:31,830 --> 02:38:28,560 a few hours 3608 02:38:33,590 --> 02:38:31,840 discussing the aspects of how the rescue 3609 02:38:34,309 --> 02:38:33,600 is going to happen 3610 02:38:38,870 --> 02:38:34,319 but 3611 02:38:43,830 --> 02:38:41,510 they arrive on earth which to them is a 3612 02:38:46,150 --> 02:38:43,840 day later 3613 02:38:49,110 --> 02:38:46,160 you have now lived 10 years here on 3614 02:38:51,590 --> 02:38:49,120 earth and if you live 10 years here on 3615 02:38:54,070 --> 02:38:51,600 earth that means you've got 10 years of 3616 02:38:57,030 --> 02:38:54,080 life and experiences and everything else 3617 02:38:59,910 --> 02:38:57,040 to the crew of the oroville 3618 02:39:03,270 --> 02:38:59,920 a day has passed 3619 02:39:05,429 --> 02:39:03,280 so think about that and then you have to 3620 02:39:07,670 --> 02:39:05,439 deal with that 3621 02:39:10,389 --> 02:39:07,680 and that's what the orville does and 3622 02:39:12,469 --> 02:39:10,399 they do it really really well 3623 02:39:13,750 --> 02:39:12,479 so everything that i've talked about 3624 02:39:16,389 --> 02:39:13,760 tonight 3625 02:39:19,429 --> 02:39:16,399 all of it you have the science side then 3626 02:39:20,630 --> 02:39:19,439 you have the philosophical side of time 3627 02:39:21,670 --> 02:39:20,640 travel 3628 02:39:25,750 --> 02:39:21,680 and 3629 02:39:27,429 --> 02:39:25,760 many times on the show 3630 02:39:31,349 --> 02:39:27,439 and then the oroville 3631 02:39:33,990 --> 02:39:31,359 uh last week does their latest episode 3632 02:39:37,270 --> 02:39:34,000 of everything that i constantly talk 3633 02:39:39,429 --> 02:39:37,280 about on this show so if you haven't 3634 02:39:41,670 --> 02:39:39,439 seen it go and check it out the orville 3635 02:39:42,630 --> 02:39:41,680 is is incredible it's one of my favorite 3636 02:39:46,070 --> 02:39:42,640 series 3637 02:39:48,230 --> 02:39:46,080 and they deal with all of this 3638 02:39:50,550 --> 02:39:48,240 in the latest episode okay that being 3639 02:39:53,190 --> 02:39:50,560 said 3640 02:40:00,550 --> 02:39:53,200 the grandfather paradox 3641 02:40:02,630 --> 02:40:00,560 any physicist uh speak about time travel 3642 02:40:06,309 --> 02:40:02,640 uh the first thing that they jump into 3643 02:40:07,110 --> 02:40:06,319 is the grandfather paradox you see it in 3644 02:40:08,870 --> 02:40:07,120 uh 3645 02:40:11,429 --> 02:40:08,880 science fiction movies 3646 02:40:13,110 --> 02:40:11,439 um in books 3647 02:40:16,469 --> 02:40:13,120 it doesn't matter 3648 02:40:18,150 --> 02:40:16,479 uh the grandfather paradoxes there 3649 02:40:20,870 --> 02:40:18,160 but many 3650 02:40:22,389 --> 02:40:20,880 well what is it the grandfather paradox 3651 02:40:25,590 --> 02:40:22,399 occurs 3652 02:40:28,790 --> 02:40:25,600 when the past is changed 3653 02:40:30,389 --> 02:40:28,800 that's it it's changed in any way but 3654 02:40:34,469 --> 02:40:30,399 the common 3655 02:40:36,550 --> 02:40:34,479 is 3656 02:40:38,389 --> 02:40:36,560 somebody traveling to the past and 3657 02:40:39,190 --> 02:40:38,399 killing 3658 02:40:47,429 --> 02:40:39,200 their 3659 02:40:50,230 --> 02:40:47,439 and which then prevents the existence 3660 02:40:54,710 --> 02:40:50,240 of one of their parents 3661 02:40:56,150 --> 02:40:54,720 which means that they don't exist 3662 02:40:57,990 --> 02:40:56,160 so you have a loop 3663 02:41:00,309 --> 02:40:58,000 you have something that is created right 3664 02:41:02,630 --> 02:41:00,319 there how is it possible to go back 3665 02:41:04,309 --> 02:41:02,640 and and kill your grandfather that means 3666 02:41:07,349 --> 02:41:04,319 your parents aren't born 3667 02:41:10,630 --> 02:41:07,359 that or one of your parents which means 3668 02:41:13,110 --> 02:41:10,640 you weren't conceived and therefore how 3669 02:41:16,070 --> 02:41:13,120 can you travel back in time and if you 3670 02:41:17,030 --> 02:41:16,080 do this do you cease to exist so let's 3671 02:41:18,150 --> 02:41:17,040 say 3672 02:41:22,550 --> 02:41:18,160 you 3673 02:41:25,110 --> 02:41:22,560 he gets hit by the bus and dies at that 3674 02:41:27,110 --> 02:41:25,120 moment do you just 3675 02:41:31,910 --> 02:41:27,120 disappear 3676 02:41:35,910 --> 02:41:34,150 there are aspects of this you know 3677 02:41:38,309 --> 02:41:35,920 you go back in time you give your mother 3678 02:41:40,389 --> 02:41:38,319 a watch she uh 3679 02:41:43,030 --> 02:41:40,399 grows up and then gives you the watch 3680 02:41:44,630 --> 02:41:43,040 when you're a kid but how can you how 3681 02:41:45,990 --> 02:41:44,640 can you have the watch if you don't 3682 02:41:47,750 --> 02:41:46,000 travel back in time and give her the 3683 02:41:51,030 --> 02:41:47,760 watch and and 3684 02:41:54,309 --> 02:41:51,040 on and on and on there's any version of 3685 02:41:55,110 --> 02:41:54,319 the grandfather paradox can play out 3686 02:41:58,790 --> 02:41:55,120 right 3687 02:42:02,950 --> 02:41:58,800 okay uh another aspect of this 3688 02:42:08,150 --> 02:42:05,110 the russians 3689 02:42:08,950 --> 02:42:08,160 get a time machine 3690 02:42:10,309 --> 02:42:08,960 right 3691 02:42:13,670 --> 02:42:10,319 now 3692 02:42:14,870 --> 02:42:13,680 and they don't like the united states 3693 02:42:16,150 --> 02:42:14,880 right 3694 02:42:17,429 --> 02:42:16,160 what would they do 3695 02:42:19,750 --> 02:42:17,439 you know would they go back and mess 3696 02:42:21,429 --> 02:42:19,760 with our military would they go back and 3697 02:42:23,110 --> 02:42:21,439 deactivate 3698 02:42:25,349 --> 02:42:23,120 to steal the 3699 02:42:27,030 --> 02:42:25,359 plans for nuclear bombs so we don't have 3700 02:42:29,349 --> 02:42:27,040 them whatever no you know what you would 3701 02:42:34,950 --> 02:42:31,750 you would go back 3702 02:42:35,990 --> 02:42:34,960 400 years ago and and start sinking 3703 02:42:37,670 --> 02:42:36,000 ships 3704 02:42:40,950 --> 02:42:37,680 of the pilgrims coming over to the 3705 02:42:42,070 --> 02:42:40,960 united states that's what she would do 3706 02:42:43,110 --> 02:42:42,080 right 3707 02:42:46,150 --> 02:42:43,120 you would 3708 02:42:47,910 --> 02:42:46,160 kill george washington whatever 3709 02:42:50,150 --> 02:42:47,920 thomas jefferson 3710 02:42:53,030 --> 02:42:50,160 benjamin franklin you would stop the 3711 02:42:54,469 --> 02:42:53,040 united states from existing at its very 3712 02:42:56,469 --> 02:42:54,479 very beginning 3713 02:42:57,510 --> 02:42:56,479 that's what you would do 3714 02:42:59,990 --> 02:42:57,520 so that 3715 02:43:01,670 --> 02:43:00,000 these philosophical aspects to time 3716 02:43:02,790 --> 02:43:01,680 travel are something that needs to be 3717 02:43:05,910 --> 02:43:02,800 considered 3718 02:43:07,030 --> 02:43:05,920 but this isn't a modern 3719 02:43:08,870 --> 02:43:07,040 thing 3720 02:43:11,269 --> 02:43:08,880 it's not 3721 02:43:13,670 --> 02:43:11,279 now once you jump into the research i'm 3722 02:43:15,110 --> 02:43:13,680 going to help you right now with it 3723 02:43:19,349 --> 02:43:15,120 you'll find out that these things have 3724 02:43:24,710 --> 02:43:19,359 been discussed for a very very long time 3725 02:43:27,429 --> 02:43:24,720 in a letter printed in the july 1927 3726 02:43:29,670 --> 02:43:27,439 issue of amazing stories 3727 02:43:32,469 --> 02:43:29,680 suggested that a time traveler could 3728 02:43:34,630 --> 02:43:32,479 shoot and kill his younger self 3729 02:43:36,550 --> 02:43:34,640 a similar scenario is presented in 3730 02:43:38,230 --> 02:43:36,560 amazing stories in their quarterly 3731 02:43:39,910 --> 02:43:38,240 version of the magazine in the summer of 3732 02:43:42,389 --> 02:43:39,920 1929 3733 02:43:44,870 --> 02:43:42,399 when a time traveler has the opportunity 3734 02:43:48,070 --> 02:43:44,880 to avoid the events 3735 02:43:50,550 --> 02:43:48,080 that sent him back in time the time 3736 02:43:52,790 --> 02:43:50,560 traveler offers a hypothetical example 3737 02:43:54,950 --> 02:43:52,800 in which he might have traveled to his 3738 02:43:57,429 --> 02:43:54,960 grandfather's childhood 3739 02:43:58,870 --> 02:43:57,439 to kill him 3740 02:44:01,830 --> 02:43:58,880 right 3741 02:44:03,590 --> 02:44:01,840 one of these time travelers 3742 02:44:05,830 --> 02:44:03,600 angles in in 3743 02:44:08,070 --> 02:44:05,840 correspondence back to 3744 02:44:09,910 --> 02:44:08,080 amazing stories said that 3745 02:44:12,150 --> 02:44:09,920 they had heard 3746 02:44:14,710 --> 02:44:12,160 that the grandfather 3747 02:44:17,349 --> 02:44:14,720 argument not paradox but back then they 3748 02:44:19,830 --> 02:44:17,359 called it the grandfather argument 3749 02:44:22,630 --> 02:44:19,840 they had heard about this previously 3750 02:44:26,230 --> 02:44:22,640 and later that year another editorial 3751 02:44:29,269 --> 02:44:26,240 note in science wonder magazine 3752 02:44:32,469 --> 02:44:29,279 invited readers to discuss the problem 3753 02:44:36,070 --> 02:44:32,479 of traveling back 200 years to shoot 3754 02:44:38,790 --> 02:44:36,080 one's great great grandfather and the 3755 02:44:41,590 --> 02:44:38,800 debate about the grandfather paradox 3756 02:44:43,750 --> 02:44:41,600 continued continued week after week 3757 02:44:47,429 --> 02:44:43,760 month after month everybody discussed 3758 02:44:50,550 --> 02:44:47,439 this it was a very very deep subject it 3759 02:44:53,110 --> 02:44:50,560 was discussed way before computers 3760 02:44:55,910 --> 02:44:53,120 way before the nuclear age we're talking 3761 02:44:57,590 --> 02:44:55,920 about the 1920s and 1930s by the early 3762 02:44:59,990 --> 02:44:57,600 1930s 3763 02:45:01,910 --> 02:45:00,000 the topic was frequently discussed in 3764 02:45:03,990 --> 02:45:01,920 various american science fiction 3765 02:45:06,630 --> 02:45:04,000 magazines 3766 02:45:09,910 --> 02:45:06,640 a 1931 amazing stories letter 3767 02:45:12,389 --> 02:45:09,920 characterizes the matter as the age-old 3768 02:45:14,790 --> 02:45:12,399 argument of preventing your birth by 3769 02:45:16,870 --> 02:45:14,800 killing your grandparents 3770 02:45:18,469 --> 02:45:16,880 early science fiction stories dealing 3771 02:45:22,550 --> 02:45:18,479 with the paradox were published in the 3772 02:45:26,070 --> 02:45:22,560 1930s and 1940s and the 1944 book future 3773 02:45:29,510 --> 02:45:26,080 times 3 by renee bargival 3774 02:45:31,910 --> 02:45:29,520 touched upon the topic in great detail 3775 02:45:33,910 --> 02:45:31,920 it's an amazing book and i would suggest 3776 02:45:35,429 --> 02:45:33,920 that everyone read it 3777 02:45:38,389 --> 02:45:35,439 now 3778 02:45:39,910 --> 02:45:38,399 what about time travelers today 3779 02:45:43,830 --> 02:45:39,920 around us 3780 02:45:45,990 --> 02:45:43,840 now i talk about the fermi paradox a lot 3781 02:45:49,750 --> 02:45:46,000 of course that deals with ufos and the 3782 02:45:51,750 --> 02:45:49,760 existence of aliens and if there are 3783 02:45:55,030 --> 02:45:51,760 you know so many planets out there that 3784 02:45:57,510 --> 02:45:55,040 could support alien life and do 3785 02:46:00,710 --> 02:45:57,520 well then where is everybody 3786 02:46:01,750 --> 02:46:00,720 and enrico fermi uh posited this 3787 02:46:03,830 --> 02:46:01,760 question 3788 02:46:05,030 --> 02:46:03,840 uh over lunch 3789 02:46:07,590 --> 02:46:05,040 um 3790 02:46:10,070 --> 02:46:07,600 and at a research laboratory in new 3791 02:46:13,990 --> 02:46:10,080 mexico when they were dealing with you 3792 02:46:16,389 --> 02:46:14,000 know nuclear bombs and weapons but um 3793 02:46:18,309 --> 02:46:16,399 but this was a topic that was discussed 3794 02:46:23,110 --> 02:46:18,319 and there was a lot of ufo sightings 3795 02:46:26,070 --> 02:46:23,120 that were happening 1952 1953 1954 which 3796 02:46:27,590 --> 02:46:26,080 caused enrico and his other physicist 3797 02:46:30,710 --> 02:46:27,600 buddies to sit around and talk about 3798 02:46:33,670 --> 02:46:30,720 this subject you know where is 3799 02:46:36,150 --> 02:46:33,680 everybody at if there's all of this life 3800 02:46:37,990 --> 02:46:36,160 out there that was in the early 1950s 3801 02:46:40,710 --> 02:46:38,000 imagine how that conversation would 3802 02:46:42,870 --> 02:46:40,720 change today once 3803 02:46:45,429 --> 02:46:42,880 we have now found out that there are 3804 02:46:48,469 --> 02:46:45,439 billions and billions of earth-like 3805 02:46:51,590 --> 02:46:48,479 planets right here in our own milky way 3806 02:46:52,950 --> 02:46:51,600 well stephen hawking 3807 02:46:56,230 --> 02:46:52,960 adapted 3808 02:46:59,030 --> 02:46:56,240 the fermi paradox he did 3809 02:47:00,790 --> 02:46:59,040 he just adapted it to time travel and he 3810 02:47:02,309 --> 02:47:00,800 flipped it around 3811 02:47:05,429 --> 02:47:02,319 and he phrased it you know if time 3812 02:47:08,150 --> 02:47:05,439 travel were possible man you know where 3813 02:47:09,750 --> 02:47:08,160 all the visitors from the future 3814 02:47:13,030 --> 02:47:09,760 understandable 3815 02:47:14,710 --> 02:47:13,040 and so he did his invitation he did his 3816 02:47:17,190 --> 02:47:14,720 time travel party 3817 02:47:20,550 --> 02:47:17,200 and uh party has had such and such a 3818 02:47:22,630 --> 02:47:20,560 date and would love to have you here and 3819 02:47:29,309 --> 02:47:22,640 nobody showed up 3820 02:47:33,269 --> 02:47:31,190 everything 3821 02:47:36,550 --> 02:47:33,279 that is presented especially from a 3822 02:47:43,110 --> 02:47:39,990 is getting too complex 3823 02:47:47,190 --> 02:47:43,120 i think it's a lot simpler 3824 02:47:51,110 --> 02:47:47,200 than what they are suggesting 3825 02:47:55,910 --> 02:47:53,110 i get on a spaceship 3826 02:47:57,910 --> 02:47:55,920 i head out for a couple of years 3827 02:47:59,670 --> 02:47:57,920 approach the speed of light 3828 02:48:03,110 --> 02:47:59,680 i make a u-turn 3829 02:48:04,630 --> 02:48:03,120 and i come back to earth and 5 000 years 3830 02:48:07,910 --> 02:48:04,640 has passed 3831 02:48:11,190 --> 02:48:07,920 and i am now here 3832 02:48:14,710 --> 02:48:11,200 two years has passed so i leave earth at 3833 02:48:16,870 --> 02:48:14,720 58 i come back at 60 but it's 5 000 3834 02:48:19,750 --> 02:48:16,880 years in the future 3835 02:48:21,990 --> 02:48:19,760 i guarantee 3836 02:48:23,349 --> 02:48:22,000 that when i get off that ship and i say 3837 02:48:25,590 --> 02:48:23,359 hello 3838 02:48:27,510 --> 02:48:25,600 and i go uh 3839 02:48:30,230 --> 02:48:27,520 have you guys invented time travel yet 3840 02:48:32,630 --> 02:48:30,240 oh yeah we did that 4 000 years ago do 3841 02:48:36,550 --> 02:48:32,640 it all the time oh really cool so i can 3842 02:48:37,910 --> 02:48:36,560 get back to the year 2022 you can 3843 02:48:40,550 --> 02:48:37,920 cool 3844 02:48:43,110 --> 02:48:40,560 that that that's a fact 3845 02:48:45,990 --> 02:48:43,120 it's a fact 3846 02:48:47,349 --> 02:48:46,000 so why hasn't it happened 3847 02:48:50,710 --> 02:48:47,359 all right 3848 02:48:52,309 --> 02:48:50,720 there's a couple of aspects of this to 3849 02:48:54,870 --> 02:48:52,319 to understand and this is why i think 3850 02:48:56,950 --> 02:48:54,880 it's a lot more simple 3851 02:48:58,389 --> 02:48:56,960 than everybody else's is playing it out 3852 02:49:00,630 --> 02:48:58,399 to be 3853 02:49:03,830 --> 02:49:00,640 and then there's a complex side of this 3854 02:49:07,910 --> 02:49:03,840 and i'll get to that in just a second 3855 02:49:12,870 --> 02:49:10,870 you're not changing anything 3856 02:49:15,670 --> 02:49:12,880 so let's go to the grandfather paradox 3857 02:49:19,190 --> 02:49:15,680 what do i mean by that 3858 02:49:19,990 --> 02:49:19,200 i go back and kill my grandparents 3859 02:49:23,750 --> 02:49:20,000 right 3860 02:49:28,150 --> 02:49:24,830 you're not 3861 02:49:29,910 --> 02:49:28,160 changing the future 3862 02:49:32,469 --> 02:49:29,920 you're killing your grandparents in the 3863 02:49:34,630 --> 02:49:32,479 past but the future has already happened 3864 02:49:38,469 --> 02:49:34,640 the future you 3865 02:49:40,950 --> 02:49:38,479 is going to continue living 3866 02:49:42,630 --> 02:49:40,960 and doing your thing 3867 02:49:45,030 --> 02:49:42,640 you're only 3868 02:49:47,830 --> 02:49:45,040 changing the past but that doesn't mean 3869 02:49:51,030 --> 02:49:47,840 that the universe is now upset the time 3870 02:49:53,190 --> 02:49:51,040 space continuum and that you know you've 3871 02:49:54,389 --> 02:49:53,200 killed the baby hitler now world war ii 3872 02:49:55,190 --> 02:49:54,399 doesn't happen 3873 02:50:02,070 --> 02:49:55,200 and 3874 02:50:03,750 --> 02:50:02,080 everything is different no 3875 02:50:07,670 --> 02:50:03,760 no 3876 02:50:11,510 --> 02:50:08,870 you may 3877 02:50:14,389 --> 02:50:11,520 kill your grandparents in the past 3878 02:50:16,630 --> 02:50:14,399 but you in the future the you you 3879 02:50:18,070 --> 02:50:16,640 exist physically i don't believe that 3880 02:50:20,710 --> 02:50:18,080 that changes 3881 02:50:22,790 --> 02:50:20,720 i don't think that you are creating uh 3882 02:50:25,590 --> 02:50:22,800 additional timelines that in this 3883 02:50:27,429 --> 02:50:25,600 timeline i'm alive but in that timeline 3884 02:50:28,870 --> 02:50:27,439 i'm dead in that timeline my 3885 02:50:30,710 --> 02:50:28,880 grandparents are dead but in this 3886 02:50:31,670 --> 02:50:30,720 timeline 3887 02:50:37,990 --> 02:50:31,680 no 3888 02:50:39,429 --> 02:50:38,000 possible and remember in the world of 3889 02:50:41,750 --> 02:50:39,439 physics 3890 02:50:45,349 --> 02:50:41,760 anything is possible 3891 02:50:47,750 --> 02:50:45,359 and everything will eventually happen 3892 02:50:49,750 --> 02:50:47,760 okay i understand that part of it 3893 02:50:52,710 --> 02:50:49,760 i do lenny suskin 3894 02:50:54,950 --> 02:50:52,720 explains it very elegantly 3895 02:50:58,469 --> 02:50:54,960 but what i am suggesting 3896 02:50:59,590 --> 02:50:58,479 is that if i have the ability to go back 3897 02:51:01,110 --> 02:50:59,600 and kept 3898 02:51:02,870 --> 02:51:01,120 the future 3899 02:51:04,250 --> 02:51:02,880 that i just came from 3900 02:51:05,990 --> 02:51:04,260 doesn't change 3901 02:51:07,830 --> 02:51:06,000 [Music] 3902 02:51:09,750 --> 02:51:07,840 you can go back and kill somebody in the 3903 02:51:11,429 --> 02:51:09,760 past 3904 02:51:13,190 --> 02:51:11,439 it's not going to change the future 3905 02:51:15,110 --> 02:51:13,200 you've just done something in the past 3906 02:51:17,830 --> 02:51:15,120 that's it you're not 3907 02:51:20,070 --> 02:51:17,840 upsetting the balance of the universe 3908 02:51:22,309 --> 02:51:20,080 here's the other technical aspect of 3909 02:51:24,389 --> 02:51:22,319 this 3910 02:51:26,070 --> 02:51:24,399 the universe 3911 02:51:29,269 --> 02:51:26,080 all of it 3912 02:51:30,790 --> 02:51:29,279 is made of a set number of particles 3913 02:51:33,990 --> 02:51:30,800 you can measure it 3914 02:51:35,910 --> 02:51:34,000 um there are calculations today that you 3915 02:51:39,510 --> 02:51:35,920 can go and read how many particles are 3916 02:51:41,269 --> 02:51:39,520 in the universe right now right and 3917 02:51:43,110 --> 02:51:41,279 if you look 3918 02:51:44,830 --> 02:51:43,120 at your left hand and you look at your 3919 02:51:48,070 --> 02:51:44,840 right hand you're looking at 3920 02:51:51,190 --> 02:51:48,080 particles from two different stars 3921 02:51:54,550 --> 02:51:51,200 we're all stardust 3922 02:51:59,190 --> 02:51:54,560 you can't change that 3923 02:52:00,389 --> 02:51:59,200 you can't so if you go back in time 3924 02:52:02,389 --> 02:52:00,399 and 3925 02:52:04,070 --> 02:52:02,399 just up here 3926 02:52:06,870 --> 02:52:04,080 are you adding 3927 02:52:09,750 --> 02:52:06,880 to the amount of particles in the 3928 02:52:11,429 --> 02:52:09,760 universe at that time 3929 02:52:12,309 --> 02:52:11,439 holy crap 3930 02:52:14,790 --> 02:52:12,319 right 3931 02:52:18,389 --> 02:52:14,800 that would change everything 3932 02:52:20,710 --> 02:52:18,399 you would go to the future and change 3933 02:52:22,070 --> 02:52:20,720 the amount of particles that are in the 3934 02:52:25,349 --> 02:52:22,080 universe 3935 02:52:27,269 --> 02:52:25,359 it seems like everything would blow up 3936 02:52:29,830 --> 02:52:27,279 right and everything would cease to 3937 02:52:31,910 --> 02:52:29,840 exist that's why i just don't think it's 3938 02:52:33,590 --> 02:52:31,920 that complicated 3939 02:52:37,110 --> 02:52:33,600 i i don't 3940 02:52:38,710 --> 02:52:37,120 that if if i show up in the future if 3941 02:52:40,830 --> 02:52:38,720 i'm somehow 3942 02:52:43,990 --> 02:52:40,840 going from 3943 02:52:46,070 --> 02:52:44,000 a out to a planet doing a u-turn and 3944 02:52:49,269 --> 02:52:46,080 coming back to earth and then coming 3945 02:52:52,469 --> 02:52:49,279 back to this timeline am i here or not 3946 02:52:56,070 --> 02:52:52,479 if i come back to a timeline time 3947 02:52:59,750 --> 02:52:56,080 if i go a little bit further in the past 3948 02:53:03,030 --> 02:52:59,760 would i see another version of me yes 3949 02:53:05,510 --> 02:53:03,040 right it's is it upsetting things i i 3950 02:53:06,630 --> 02:53:05,520 just don't think so 3951 02:53:09,990 --> 02:53:06,640 i don't 3952 02:53:13,269 --> 02:53:10,000 that's why in the atom project uh this 3953 02:53:15,429 --> 02:53:13,279 aspect to that where ryan reynolds goes 3954 02:53:18,630 --> 02:53:15,439 back and hangs out with a virgin 3955 02:53:20,150 --> 02:53:18,640 i mean his younger self and they talk 3956 02:53:22,950 --> 02:53:20,160 um 3957 02:53:26,630 --> 02:53:22,960 is is the universe imploding no 3958 02:53:28,870 --> 02:53:26,640 that's why i think it's much more simple 3959 02:53:31,670 --> 02:53:28,880 i don't think that paradoxes are are 3960 02:53:33,110 --> 02:53:31,680 part of the reality of things i just i 3961 02:53:36,830 --> 02:53:33,120 just don't feel that 3962 02:53:43,110 --> 02:53:40,230 again if i traveled out and made a 3963 02:53:45,910 --> 02:53:43,120 u-turn and came back 5000 years in the 3964 02:53:47,349 --> 02:53:45,920 future time travel has been invented you 3965 02:53:48,150 --> 02:53:47,359 can do it 3966 02:53:50,309 --> 02:53:48,160 and 3967 02:53:51,510 --> 02:53:50,319 you can bounce around all day long 3968 02:53:53,030 --> 02:53:51,520 therefore 3969 02:53:55,910 --> 02:53:53,040 somebody would have come back here 3970 02:53:58,070 --> 02:53:55,920 you're not upsetting anything 3971 02:54:01,030 --> 02:53:58,080 there isn't there isn't a paradox that 3972 02:54:02,550 --> 02:54:01,040 is created there isn't another timeline 3973 02:54:04,550 --> 02:54:02,560 that is created i don't i don't think 3974 02:54:06,950 --> 02:54:04,560 that that is the case even though that's 3975 02:54:09,190 --> 02:54:06,960 what john teeter has said 3976 02:54:11,269 --> 02:54:09,200 now 3977 02:54:12,309 --> 02:54:11,279 here's the other part 3978 02:54:17,670 --> 02:54:12,319 and 3979 02:54:22,150 --> 02:54:17,680 that 3980 02:54:24,070 --> 02:54:22,160 going backwards and forwards in time 3981 02:54:26,710 --> 02:54:24,080 is not only simple 3982 02:54:27,670 --> 02:54:26,720 and is not changing things 3983 02:54:32,790 --> 02:54:27,680 and 3984 02:54:34,429 --> 02:54:32,800 is not changing things 3985 02:54:36,790 --> 02:54:34,439 that's why i think that the 3986 02:54:39,910 --> 02:54:36,800 commercialization of this 3987 02:54:41,830 --> 02:54:39,920 and going to a travel company to go on a 3988 02:54:44,790 --> 02:54:41,840 vacation 3989 02:54:47,190 --> 02:54:44,800 i believe that this this happens 3990 02:54:49,030 --> 02:54:47,200 and the and the reason why 3991 02:54:51,750 --> 02:54:49,040 i think that this happens 3992 02:54:54,469 --> 02:54:51,760 is because you are only playing the part 3993 02:54:55,590 --> 02:54:54,479 of the observer 3994 02:54:58,309 --> 02:54:55,600 right that 3995 02:55:00,389 --> 02:54:58,319 that i think it's quite possible 3996 02:55:01,990 --> 02:55:00,399 that why these paradoxes aren't 3997 02:55:04,870 --> 02:55:02,000 happening 3998 02:55:06,790 --> 02:55:04,880 is if we're not seeing these changes and 3999 02:55:08,469 --> 02:55:06,800 i'll get to the mandela effect before we 4000 02:55:10,550 --> 02:55:08,479 get out of here i'm trying to get the 4001 02:55:13,830 --> 02:55:10,560 rest of this in 4002 02:55:18,950 --> 02:55:15,750 that coming back 4003 02:55:21,750 --> 02:55:18,960 the aspect of sleep and dreams and time 4004 02:55:23,830 --> 02:55:21,760 travel and astral that side of it that 4005 02:55:25,830 --> 02:55:23,840 that is another part of time travel that 4006 02:55:28,389 --> 02:55:25,840 i think is a real experience so you 4007 02:55:31,030 --> 02:55:28,399 could come back you can observe you can 4008 02:55:33,110 --> 02:55:31,040 just like going to a concert 4009 02:55:35,830 --> 02:55:33,120 going to the movies 4010 02:55:38,630 --> 02:55:35,840 you're seeing it it's physical it's real 4011 02:55:40,870 --> 02:55:38,640 but you are not seen 4012 02:55:43,030 --> 02:55:40,880 and you can't interact 4013 02:55:45,990 --> 02:55:43,040 and you can't do any of that and you 4014 02:55:48,550 --> 02:55:46,000 can't kill anybody you can't change the 4015 02:55:50,309 --> 02:55:48,560 future no matter what 4016 02:55:51,750 --> 02:55:50,319 you 4017 02:55:54,870 --> 02:55:51,760 want to 4018 02:55:57,590 --> 02:55:54,880 change something but you can't because 4019 02:56:01,349 --> 02:55:57,600 the future is already there you cannot 4020 02:56:03,510 --> 02:56:01,359 change it there is not a possibility 4021 02:56:05,429 --> 02:56:03,520 of a paradox 4022 02:56:06,469 --> 02:56:05,439 that's it well how 4023 02:56:09,830 --> 02:56:06,479 no 4024 02:56:11,990 --> 02:56:09,840 i i just feel that that is the case 4025 02:56:14,710 --> 02:56:12,000 these questions of paradoxes and the way 4026 02:56:17,269 --> 02:56:14,720 that physicists and and other scientists 4027 02:56:19,510 --> 02:56:17,279 bring this aspect of it up is because 4028 02:56:22,230 --> 02:56:19,520 they want to talk their way out of the 4029 02:56:25,349 --> 02:56:22,240 possibility of time travel time travel 4030 02:56:27,510 --> 02:56:25,359 is real it can happen and it can be done 4031 02:56:30,550 --> 02:56:27,520 we understand that today there's no 4032 02:56:34,150 --> 02:56:30,560 question about it with a science behind 4033 02:56:35,750 --> 02:56:34,160 wormholes going back as and coming back 4034 02:56:37,429 --> 02:56:35,760 as a younger version of you and 4035 02:56:40,550 --> 02:56:37,439 traveling to the past 4036 02:56:42,150 --> 02:56:40,560 that science is sound 4037 02:56:44,630 --> 02:56:42,160 i remember i'm going to leave you with 4038 02:56:47,190 --> 02:56:44,640 this i remember the first time i 4039 02:56:49,990 --> 02:56:47,200 started to hear about the mandela effect 4040 02:56:51,269 --> 02:56:50,000 and i started to think about how is this 4041 02:56:53,349 --> 02:56:51,279 possible 4042 02:56:54,870 --> 02:56:53,359 i think that that may be another aspect 4043 02:56:56,950 --> 02:56:54,880 of time travel 4044 02:56:59,590 --> 02:56:56,960 right because there's many versions of 4045 02:57:01,670 --> 02:56:59,600 it i'm just giving you a couple of ideas 4046 02:57:03,830 --> 02:57:01,680 and scenarios to play out 4047 02:57:05,910 --> 02:57:03,840 but the mandela effect is something that 4048 02:57:06,870 --> 02:57:05,920 is affecting millions if not billions of 4049 02:57:09,349 --> 02:57:06,880 people 4050 02:57:11,349 --> 02:57:09,359 and we're seeing this is that another 4051 02:57:13,910 --> 02:57:11,359 aspect of time travel that is for 4052 02:57:15,510 --> 02:57:13,920 another show and here's the last thing 4053 02:57:16,630 --> 02:57:15,520 this is the third part of this i want to 4054 02:57:19,429 --> 02:57:16,640 leave you with 4055 02:57:21,910 --> 02:57:19,439 i had a very deep conversation 4056 02:57:23,590 --> 02:57:21,920 with richard dolan about traveling to 4057 02:57:27,349 --> 02:57:23,600 the past he's okay with going to the 4058 02:57:29,510 --> 02:57:27,359 future remember the future is 4059 02:57:32,150 --> 02:57:29,520 not happened yet 4060 02:57:33,110 --> 02:57:32,160 apparently so going to the future is is 4061 02:57:34,710 --> 02:57:33,120 easy 4062 02:57:36,790 --> 02:57:34,720 right you're not changing anything 4063 02:57:38,550 --> 02:57:36,800 you're only experiencing it but going to 4064 02:57:41,910 --> 02:57:38,560 the past is different and what richard 4065 02:57:44,950 --> 02:57:41,920 had said to me he said you're telling me 4066 02:57:46,510 --> 02:57:44,960 that if you go back in time 4067 02:57:49,349 --> 02:57:46,520 then 4068 02:57:53,110 --> 02:57:49,359 everything in the universe 4069 02:57:55,750 --> 02:57:53,120 is also going backwards in time 4070 02:57:58,710 --> 02:57:55,760 right the amount of energy that would be 4071 02:57:59,750 --> 02:57:58,720 applied there and how it would be done 4072 02:58:02,950 --> 02:57:59,760 no 4073 02:58:06,070 --> 02:58:02,960 and richard's right that part of it 4074 02:58:09,590 --> 02:58:06,080 is impossible it would take the energy 4075 02:58:10,790 --> 02:58:09,600 of the known everything to crank back 4076 02:58:13,110 --> 02:58:10,800 time 4077 02:58:14,950 --> 02:58:13,120 everywhere 4078 02:58:17,349 --> 02:58:14,960 but with a wormhole 4079 02:58:20,950 --> 02:58:17,359 it's individual 4080 02:58:23,030 --> 02:58:20,960 you are younger 4081 02:58:25,110 --> 02:58:23,040 think about that 4082 02:58:27,750 --> 02:58:25,120 this is fade to black i am your host 4083 02:58:30,230 --> 02:58:27,760 jimmy church i've got a few ideas for 4084 02:58:31,670 --> 02:58:30,240 next monday's presentation it's going to 4085 02:58:33,990 --> 02:58:31,680 be great we're not going to do time 4086 02:58:36,230 --> 02:58:34,000 travel next week that'll be a couple of 4087 02:58:38,469 --> 02:58:36,240 more months down the road i've got a 4088 02:58:40,550 --> 02:58:38,479 whole list of different subjects that i 4089 02:58:43,190 --> 02:58:40,560 want to get covered and get out of my 4090 02:58:46,630 --> 02:58:43,200 brain and out to the rest of the world 4091 02:58:49,510 --> 02:58:46,640 uh for the foreseeable future i'm really 4092 02:58:52,230 --> 02:58:49,520 enjoying these monday nights and and 4093 02:58:53,750 --> 02:58:52,240 going through this and just sharing what 4094 02:58:57,190 --> 02:58:53,760 i have learned 4095 02:58:58,389 --> 02:58:57,200 over the years uh time travel is is 4096 02:59:01,510 --> 02:58:58,399 important 4097 02:59:04,550 --> 02:59:01,520 um i i i really feel 4098 02:59:06,630 --> 02:59:04,560 um that that not only is it real but 4099 02:59:09,110 --> 02:59:06,640 there are time travelers among us right 4100 02:59:10,070 --> 02:59:09,120 now i i just i just believe that to be 4101 02:59:13,269 --> 02:59:10,080 true 4102 02:59:17,429 --> 02:59:13,279 um as an observation that's one aspect 4103 02:59:19,830 --> 02:59:17,439 of it um an astral mind a 4104 02:59:22,309 --> 02:59:19,840 time travel it's been talked about for 4105 02:59:24,389 --> 02:59:22,319 thousands of years a physical version of 4106 02:59:26,550 --> 02:59:24,399 this going backwards and forwards 4107 02:59:29,429 --> 02:59:26,560 absolutely possible 4108 02:59:32,230 --> 02:59:29,439 and the math says it is so 4109 02:59:33,750 --> 02:59:32,240 and these aspects of it 4110 02:59:35,429 --> 02:59:33,760 i don't think people really want to talk 4111 02:59:37,670 --> 02:59:35,439 about it i don't think science wants to 4112 02:59:40,309 --> 02:59:37,680 talk about it i don't they're too deep 4113 02:59:42,630 --> 02:59:40,319 and it's too philosophical this is fade 4114 02:59:44,230 --> 02:59:42,640 to black i am your host jimmy church 4115 02:59:45,110 --> 02:59:44,240 tomorrow night right here on fade to 4116 02:59:47,670 --> 02:59:45,120 black 4117 02:59:48,870 --> 02:59:47,680 scott walter is joining us and we will 4118 02:59:51,349 --> 02:59:48,880 be doing 4119 02:59:53,349 --> 02:59:51,359 the secret america 4120 02:59:56,070 --> 02:59:53,359 all of that tomorrow night i am your 4121 02:59:57,190 --> 02:59:56,080 host jimmy church wednesday night don't 4122 03:00:00,790 --> 02:59:57,200 forget 4123 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